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    <title>topic Unforgiving Plan changed due to card problem in Subscriptions</title>
    <link>https://community.spotify.com/t5/Subscriptions/Unforgiving-Plan-changed-due-to-card-problem/m-p/6627126#M154284</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;my card got fraud, so it was stop. Due to that, payment was having some problem until i realized. when i update a new card, my original 6-members family old plan automatically switched back to individual plan. When i communicate with support, they told me they can't do anything, was system generated. From my card-stop till card update was just few days time (i didn't realize that until my service stopped)...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;now when i changed back to my family plan - they said too bad, i'm new now, u have no choice but to pay more for the additional 2 users (now is 4-member family plan), rather than sticking back with the old family plan.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is really un-fair and un-forgiving. Considering i was a long time subscriber to spotify, this is just&amp;nbsp; really disappointing, i understand it's system driven, but there must be a way to cater for this kind of case back-end... it's not like i did it intentionally, it was a card problem (which i didn't want).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All i'm asking is just continue back my 6-members family package, to me it was just a 'glitch' in card error, and the gap was just few days time. This is really really disappointing. i don't think im asking for a lot, and u may check back we've been a loyal subscriber for how many years?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the support just told me... they can't really do much.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;im starting to wonder.... in one hand spotify says u value long time customer, at another side, u blame it to the system for that few days, and saying there's no way u can modify it at back end. My card was having problem due to a fraud of my old card. Like i said, it's not like i intentionally did it.... isn't that 'unfair' or shall i said unacceptable? if u are me, how would u feel?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;anyway, i told the support to stop my family plan, disappointed by how this was being handled. i will be switching to another music service soon if this was not being responded well, hopefully my voice is being heard and taken it seriously.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;sometimes i can't help but thinking.. u guys was just finding ways to charge more, then blame it to the 'system'. Hopefully the 'valuing long-time customer' part is genuine from your side.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ryan&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(my user: &lt;A href="mailto:**bleep**" target="_blank"&gt;**bleep**&lt;/A&gt;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2025 17:03:21 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Ryan-IK</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-01-03T17:03:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Unforgiving Plan changed due to card problem</title>
      <link>https://community.spotify.com/t5/Subscriptions/Unforgiving-Plan-changed-due-to-card-problem/m-p/6627126#M154284</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;my card got fraud, so it was stop. Due to that, payment was having some problem until i realized. when i update a new card, my original 6-members family old plan automatically switched back to individual plan. When i communicate with support, they told me they can't do anything, was system generated. From my card-stop till card update was just few days time (i didn't realize that until my service stopped)...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;now when i changed back to my family plan - they said too bad, i'm new now, u have no choice but to pay more for the additional 2 users (now is 4-member family plan), rather than sticking back with the old family plan.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is really un-fair and un-forgiving. Considering i was a long time subscriber to spotify, this is just&amp;nbsp; really disappointing, i understand it's system driven, but there must be a way to cater for this kind of case back-end... it's not like i did it intentionally, it was a card problem (which i didn't want).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All i'm asking is just continue back my 6-members family package, to me it was just a 'glitch' in card error, and the gap was just few days time. This is really really disappointing. i don't think im asking for a lot, and u may check back we've been a loyal subscriber for how many years?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the support just told me... they can't really do much.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;im starting to wonder.... in one hand spotify says u value long time customer, at another side, u blame it to the system for that few days, and saying there's no way u can modify it at back end. My card was having problem due to a fraud of my old card. Like i said, it's not like i intentionally did it.... isn't that 'unfair' or shall i said unacceptable? if u are me, how would u feel?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;anyway, i told the support to stop my family plan, disappointed by how this was being handled. i will be switching to another music service soon if this was not being responded well, hopefully my voice is being heard and taken it seriously.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;sometimes i can't help but thinking.. u guys was just finding ways to charge more, then blame it to the 'system'. Hopefully the 'valuing long-time customer' part is genuine from your side.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ryan&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(my user: &lt;A href="mailto:**bleep**" target="_blank"&gt;**bleep**&lt;/A&gt;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2025 17:03:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.spotify.com/t5/Subscriptions/Unforgiving-Plan-changed-due-to-card-problem/m-p/6627126#M154284</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ryan-IK</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-01-03T17:03:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>QUEJA</title>
      <link>https://community.spotify.com/t5/Subscriptions/Unforgiving-Plan-changed-due-to-card-problem/m-p/6659926#M154673</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hola, soy usuario ya hace algunos años desde otras cuentas premium familiares, donde la cuenta era hasta 6 usuarios, ahora resulta que decido crea mi propia cuenta premium y me reducieron de 6 usuarios a 4 usuarios, me parece una falta de respeto que en vez de mejorar, empeoran, sin sonar grosero pero no nos estan regalando nada. Bien eso es un punto ahora para variar a lo que hicimos el cambio de cuentas resulta que mi familia no podia unirse a mi cuenta por que les salia el mensaje que que solo se pueden unir 1 vez cada 12 meses, trate de buscar soporte en su pagina y me atendio una chica y me supo decir lo mismo, ahora eso me parece absurdo que solo se puedan unir 1 vez cada 12 meses. Ahora la solución fue que abran otra cuenta mediante otra manera, ( entraban con apple) tuvieron que iniciar sesión mediante Gmail y no me parece esa solución y eso es todo, pesimo, gracias por la atencion.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2025 01:42:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.spotify.com/t5/Subscriptions/Unforgiving-Plan-changed-due-to-card-problem/m-p/6659926#M154673</guid>
      <dc:creator>UlisesJr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-01-18T01:42:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Family renewal</title>
      <link>https://community.spotify.com/t5/Subscriptions/Unforgiving-Plan-changed-due-to-card-problem/m-p/6978026#M157786</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;For a family subscription, when your payment method is invalid (in my case, cancelled and a new card reissued) and spotify tries to renew your monthly subscription, it resets your family.&amp;nbsp; You need to redo all your family members and invites.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Instead you should just updating your payment method and nothing else to do.&amp;nbsp; Like 99.99% percent of all subscription services.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:27:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.spotify.com/t5/Subscriptions/Unforgiving-Plan-changed-due-to-card-problem/m-p/6978026#M157786</guid>
      <dc:creator>MrPlanters</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-07-19T14:27:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Family renewal</title>
      <link>https://community.spotify.com/t5/Subscriptions/Unforgiving-Plan-changed-due-to-card-problem/m-p/6981385#M157787</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.spotify.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/26839727"&gt;@MrPlanters&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for posting and welcome to the Spotify Community.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I understand how frustrating it could be for you and your family to have to start all over again after a simple payment issue.&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;If you'd like, you can go ahead and create an idea about this on the &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.spotify.com/t5/Ideas/ct-p/newideas" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;relevant idea board&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.spotify.com/t5/Spotify-Answers/Idea-Exchange-How-does-my-feedback-reach-Spotify/ta-p/4566357" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Here&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; you can read more on how ideas work.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I also suggest checking &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.spotify.com/t5/Spotify-Answers/Idea-Exchange-How-can-I-submit-an-idea/ta-p/4863573" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;this&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; help article for useful tips on how to submit an idea.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I hope this info helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:27:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.spotify.com/t5/Subscriptions/Unforgiving-Plan-changed-due-to-card-problem/m-p/6981385#M157787</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anyk17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-07-19T14:27:30Z</dc:date>
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