topic Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position in Android

Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

HertzaHaeon — Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:11:06 GMT

On Android, clicking on a playlist and going back moves you to the top of the playlists, not to your old position.

This is hugely annoying and a break from expected behavior of a list.

Please fix.

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

HarryL — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:28:17 GMT

I cannot agree with HertzaHaeon more!

This issue makes trawling through my ridiculously long list of albums a real pain in the ass!

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

-WR- — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:28:16 GMT

I came to see if there was a post regarding this immensely irritating bug, and here it is! Why isn't there a response to this issue yet?We can't be the only ones experiencing this.

This really, indeed, needs to be fixed (along side the horrifying bug where downloaded playlists won't download).

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

David — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:42:07 GMT

I believe this is intended behaviour at the moment. We wouldn't call this a bug in the traditional sense as it doesn't break the app, although for users with a number of playlists, this would be rather annoying. I'd recommend creating a topic over on our Ideas board, so we can track how popular this idea is.

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

HertzaHaeon — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 17:32:56 GMT

How is this intended behavior? What could this functionality possibly do for anyone?

The expected behavior of practially every list I can think of puts you back in the state you left. Try your contacts in your phone. In my Android, clicking on a contact and going back goes to the list at your last scroll position. Going back to a web page scrolls back to your old position.

This is at best a glaring mistake or misunderstanding of common sense UI design.

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

David — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 17:46:29 GMT

I believe it's intended because most users would tend to use Offline playlists on their device rather than stream playlists. As the downloaded playlists are stored at the top of the playlist queue, getting back to these easier would be the reasoning here. But we hear you - Would you all prefer it to go back to the previously known position?

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

SteveBrammer — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:00:32 GMT

Sorry David, that's a rubbish and weasly answer.

Even if the intention is to take you back to the offline playlists (and I'm pretty sure you're just making that up and it wasn't the intention at all) then the app still does this badly. If you have more than 9 offline playlists and scroll down past the ninth playlist, open a playlist and then click back, then it still goes to the top of the list meaning that you have to scroll back down again to get to the place in the list where you just were. Or are you expecting "most users" to only have 9 ofline playlists or less?

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

David — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:07:12 GMT

So you'd prefer it to revert to the previous position Steve? Do I take your answer as a vote or a rant?

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

SteveBrammer — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:15:09 GMT

You can take it as both...

Yes, I vote for it returning to it's previous position in the list, which is the natural behaviour you would expect (by the way how is this handled in your iOS apps?).

Yes, it's a rant because your answer was rubbish and it's so obvious that you were just desperately trying to justify the apps current, and obviously, wrong behaviour. The current behaviour is the worst of both worlds regardless of if you mostly use offline playlists or mostly stream playlists. In both situations the behaviour is bad.

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

David — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:17:23 GMT

Sounded pretty good to me 😉

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

SteveBrammer — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:34:06 GMT

It was a good try, but I saw right through you 😉

How about answering the question of what is the behaviour in the iOS apps when you go back to the list of playlists, or don't you think that's important?

Is it OK for the app on each platform to have its own foibles and behave totally differently to others?

p.s. Please, please, please don't tell us to submit this as an idea. This is such a basic function that it would be like asking us to submit and idea like "Please make the track play when I click on it in a playlist".

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

David — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:37:41 GMT

The iOS app goes to the previous location - But it's also worth pointing out that the playlists are kept within standard order, and offline playlists are not collated together. Personally I like how the Android app does it - I primarily only use offline playlists and prefer how they are all grouped together. Bouncing back to them makes things easier for my browsing. I'd also think I'd prefer this on my contacts list and messages too, but that's just me.

Then again, I only have a few offline playlists at any one time.

We're also aware of the differences between all the platforms, and I know it has been a topic of discussion before.

Despite what Steve said above, and as much as he might hate it, we really can guage this a little better if an idea was created on this. The more steam and support it gets, the more we can try and push it internally.

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

SteveBrammer — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:43:42 GMT

Ok, but I'm not creating the idea!

If we are going to have to create ideas to get such basic functionality implemented then you are going to be inundated with ideas. You are already complaining (or at least Rocio is forever apologising for it taking so long to deal with ideas because you have so many), if you want us to tell you about all of the best practice Android user interface guidelines that you haven't followed then the ideas list is going to get quite long. This was just an instance of your developers being lazy or running out of time before a deadline and it's completely wrong that we should have to vote on if we think this behaviour is correct or not. It's obvious!

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

David — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:44:03 GMT

I personally disagree, but I certainly understand why you might think that.

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

SteveBrammer — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:47:56 GMT

.....and so nothing happens and we all just live with a sub-standard Android app.........

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

personanongrata — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 19:08:04 GMT

@SteveBrammer wrote:

.....and so nothing happens and we all just live with a sub-standard Android app.........

i see no reason to hope that will ever change. some day a competitor will come along that can get this basic stuff right, and spotify will be in trouble.

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

licenced — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:57:57 GMT

I'd add a big YES to this as well and create an Idea for it ... if I thought it would influence spotify devs in any way rather than just implementing ideas they fancy on the day while talking about core functional requirements as coming soon for months on end

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

SteveBrammer — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:24:19 GMT

@David - I simply do not believe you when you say this is the intended behaviour.

This is a bug, plain and simple, and it's entirely wrong to suggest opening an idea and to have people vote on this. All that will accomplish is a delay in getting what is obviously a bug fixed.

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

halpwr — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:04:01 GMT

This should be voted "most annoying" out of all the Spotify mobile issues.

It shouldn't be classified as an idea, it's the basic way consumers view content.

When you're browsing a giant webpage, click a link, and go back, anyone in their right minds would want to go back to their original position on the page.

When you guys built Spotify, you built it for scale. I have boatloads of playlists, and want to be able to find my way. Help us 😞

Re: Going back from playlist goes to top of playlists, NOT to recent position

MannyRM — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:01:10 GMT

Hi...1st post of mine here and I hate to start with a complaint but you guys have no idea how it drives me MAD!

Especially when driving.

Other than that... I love spotify.