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TaraLynn1
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Spotify staff-

 

I recently reached the 10,000 song limit in my library, which is a great disappointment.  As a loyal customer for over 3 years, I have thoroughly enjoyed your product, so much that I have shifted to using it as my main source of music collection.  There must be some way that you can enable "super users" to continue to file and organize their music over this arbitrary limit.  

 

There may not be many of us, but (and this should be obvious) those of us that actually reach this limit are your core constituents.  We are passionate about music and your product, and I can tell you that I have gotten at least 20 people to sign up to Spotify Premium over the past couple of years as I have raved about it.  I will continue to do so, with the caveat that Spotify just isn't yet ready to become a full-fledged music library of record for musical aficianados, much to my disappointment.

 

One more thought: You may find interest in the creation of some type of super user account that would allow you to charge SLIGHTLY more for those of us who desire or require a higher song limit (say, unlimited...) without having to alter the accounts of your millions of users.  Bottom line is that unlimited should mean unlimited, especially in this age of big data, but a 10,000 song cap with no alternative is absurd.

 

Thanks

 

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Guido
Spotify Legend

Hey all,

 

Thanks for getting in touch!

 

If you are interested in seeing the song limit increased, we recommend vorig for this idea in the Ideas Exchange. You'll get notified as soon as there will be an update.

 

We’ve blocked replies to this thread now.

 

Thanks for your feedback and have a nice day.

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ofurkusa
Casual Listener

Yeah I was just looking into it.
looks like the option im going to go with.
Thanks 🙂

Mikko_baffetto
Music Fan
No worries. As said, the lack of interest showed by Spotify is outstanding and if I have to go through the pain of switching libraries, I'd rather do that then to worry about whether they will increase the song limit or not.

Twobagtaylor
Regular

Migrate your library to any service that cares more by using https://soundiiz.com. I moved the whole lot to Tidal as I got sick of the complete lack of action or acknowledgement at Spotify on this very issue. Soundiiz can also migrate back and forth with Apple Music etc. Vote with your feet. 

Discobot
Casual Listener

just hit the 10k limit, i had no idea until my saves stopped working and i thought it was spotify being broken as usual, but three restarts later it finally told me i hit the limit.

I already had some other problems, like the random feature more or less breaking around 7-8k songs in library and no longer being random. I mean i love spotify, i listen to spotify 20 hours a day and if you think that is a joke you should probably look at my profile because it's true.

In my business, if a bug only affects 0.1% of users it's still worth fixing. Fix your psudorandom and fix the limit spotify, there's no excuse really.

Jose_M
Rock Star 15
Rock Star 15

Hello @TaraLynn1!

 

Thanks for contacting the community. Unfortunately Spotify has stated, that for the time being, at least, that they have no intentions of expanding the 10,000 song limit.

 

If you want to suggest Spotify expanding the limit you can always suggest a new idea so users can vote for it and hopefully, they'll take it into account.

 

I hope to help you, feel free to write back, Jose.

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Cmullers
Newbie

As an all-time album and music lover, I am as a outraged as most of you. Just signed in for the trial month last week and immediately hit the ridiculous limit. After reading all this and seeing the awful explanation of Spotify (not to mention the “epic collection friend” joke), I’m definitely out of here. I went to Amazon, which appears to have no limit, and I’ve already saved albums worth more than 10k songs. Bye bye Spotify.

Mediacult
Newbie

So Spotify wrote the following:

 

As we've previously said, less than 1% of users are reaching this Your Music limit. The current limit ensures a great experience for 99% of users instead of an "OK" experience for 100%. 

 We've kept a close eye on your feedback though and we agree if a solution for this could be met it would be beneficial for everyone. While this isn't in our current timeline we're changing this to "Good Idea" and we'll update you if we have any info. Thanks!"

 

What kind of feedback is that to a customer group? That looks like an internal mail before the PR got their eyes on it. Yes, and guess which 1% actually want more than 10.000 tracks in their libraries? Could those be the people who are very involved in music in some way or another? I bet a majority is.

Also, thanks for letting us know how unimportant business wise this is because it's only 1% who care. That answer is just so unprofessional.... Instead just write "we'll take a look at it and might change it in the future". Don't involve the users in your internal algorithms for when a "case" is important enough for action... If you want music collectors to support anything digital, at least try to cater for them creating a digital library. I spend quite a lot of money on this subsciption, 1200 DKK a year isn't peanuts. And now I have to replace one album when I add another. Great.

 

23jr23
Newbie

I will likely cancel my family account due to this restriction soon. 

enteq
Gig Goer

I thought the Songs area under Your Library is effectively a "default playlist", and you can create as many other playlists as you need - and there is no global limit to the number of songs you effectively "bookmark" - just a 10,000 limit per playlist.

 

If that's the case, isn't this issue trivial to work around?

 

When I like a track, I add it to a playlist. I never click the "heart" icon.

  

My Songs list is empty, and always will be. 

 

I have lots of playlists, so my music is grouped in many ways (genres, tempos, year of discovery, etc.) - so I presumably won't hit any limit.

 

I would hate to have all my music in one gigantic playlist anyway.

 

So for me this is a non-issue (unless I'm mistaken and there is in fact a global limit?)

 

Do people want it to work like an iTunes-style library, because that's what they're used to?

 

Sometimes you have to just go with the flow and work the way the tool works. Life is too short.

frisco_powers
Regular

Seems like just lazy progamming on Spotify's fault. Its surely an easy fix. Apparently the folks at Spotify are just too fascist to do anything about it. #altrightspotify

sonoflife
Music Fan

That's what my impressions were too "oh this library we use has a hard time rendering data if more than 10k records have to be parsed...."

 

SOLUTION: 

#define HARD_LIBRARY_CAP 10000

#lgtm

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bhombrenuevo
Casual Listener

I'd like everyone who quite justifiably complains about this topic to browse to this site

and vote for removal of the limit. Maybe if it gets enough votes, Spotify will notice. I worry that they ignore or are unaware of this posting.

Jose_M
Rock Star 15
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Hello bhombrenuevo!

 

In my opinion, Spotify really cares about the ideas proposed here. By the time, hundreds of ideas have been implemented.

 

By the time, Spotify has stated that expanding the 10.000 songs limit is not one of their priorities. However, if you want to support this idea, make sure to vote it here.

 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with the community and fel free to write back, Jose.

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un-bel-di
Music Fan

To clarify problem to @enteq:

10000 song limit is calculated even for tracks from "saved" albums. For example, i like to save albums to have access to them through Albums menu. Navigating through your saved albums is conceptually different then using some genre/year/mood playlists with a lot of different albums there. Also, its comfortable to save per album to offline listening.

And all this doesnt work because fking spotify for some reason calculates songs from saved albums...and make a proposal to you to "unsave" some when you'r hit the limit. Ridiculous. 

 

enteq
Gig Goer

OK I can see that if you use Spotify in an album-centric way, then this would be a problem.

 

It seems that whenever you "save" an album, every track on that album appears in your Songs list. So if an album has 10 tracks on average, you'd hit the limit after just 1,000 albums! That's ridiculously small. Many people have (or used to have) physical record collections bigger than that.

 

In fact the whole way Spotify deals with albums is a bit lame - it should be possible to save an album as an entity in its own right, rather than adding all its songs to your Songs list and getting the album cover listed as a side-effect.

 

I happen to use Spotify in a track-centric way rather than an album-centric way, so luckily this issue doesn't affect me. I just put my tracks into different playlists and each playlist has a separate 10,000 track limit.

 

But if you work in an album-centric way I can see that this would suck big time. Thanks for the clarification.

 

 

tHIS_IS
Music Fan

Well, even if you are not hit with the 10,000 song limit becase of the way you setup your music (but a lot of us are), then you are hit with the 3333 limit on music per device.  

 

There are too many limitations with spotify.  I went Apple last year and could not be happier!  

 

Spotify should hire better developers... these limitations are due to poor product  development.   Luckily, spotify is losing customers and hopefully will be purchased by someone who will start over and develop it properly.  

frisco_powers
Regular

The 10,000 song limit is BS. "Epic collection" my @ss.

Effing music N azis over at Spotify.

Almightybart
Newbie

I am a music maniac myself and because of the same issue I moved to another service with 100 000 songs cap.

RonyDart
Casual Listener

The problem is that most of us uses the Add to Library as some sort of "I liked that music" button. There is no point in having a music in "my library" instead of in any other playlist. Your library is nothing more than another playlist. What Spotify should do is add a Rating system to songs (any song, not just in Radio or Discovery Weekly). So if you like or dislike a song, you should just add a rating to it. After that you could search and see all the songs that you liked or see if a Playlist by another user has more or lesse music you like or not. Or even music you never rated...

 

If you agree with me, please vote in this idea:

 

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Music-Personal-Rating-of-Music/idi-p/179102

 

 

erithtotl
Casual Listener

I don't think that's true.  People like libraries because its organized by albums and artist.  Playlist is just a big pile of songs.

RonyDart
Casual Listener

That's also true. We should be able to browse our music the way each one fells right. By Artist, by album, by rating, by date added, by date played, etc. There should be the usual views and a "View Builder" so advanced users could make their own.

 

 

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Music-Personal-Rating-of-Music/idi-p/179102

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