[Music] Better Volume Normalization - normalize local files

"set the same volume level for all songs" in spotify, does not take into account the subtle volume transients of an album that audio engineers have spent hours working on!


Solution - Add an option in settings for "Set The Same Volume Level Based On Albums". This will retain the intended volume differences between songs on an album (similar to the way replaygain album mode functions).

 

"Set The Same Volume Level Based On Albums"(replaygain album mode) DESIGNED TO RETAIN THE SUBTLE VOLUME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN TRACKS ON AN ALBUM)

This solution is extremely quick for spotify developers to implement - Just take the individual track volume values in an album and you already have this information due to your "set the same volume level for all tracks", then get the average of these track volumes for that album and the result is your per album volume reduction value! Albums will finally sound like albums again.
IN THE FUTURE - When you select "set the same volume for all albums" then it should also read the metadata in your personal music files (when the tag is present). The Name of this tag in my mp3 and flac collection is "REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN".

 

"Set The Same Volume Level For All Tracks" - (replaygain track mode) BEST FOR SHUFFLE MODE, OR LISTENING TO LOTS OF RANDOM SONGS)

Spotify already has "Set the same volume level for all tracks" in settings for songs that are streamed, which is the equivalent to replaygain track mode. This currently only works for streamed songs and it doesn't check to see if the tag "REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN" is present in your local audio file that you're currently listening to, a very simple fix indeed. 

 

DISABLED MODE = NOTHING TICKED.

When unticking "set the same volume for all albums" and "set the same volume for all tracks", all streamed and local music should not play with any volume adjustment on either streamed or library tracks, it is exactly the same effect as disabling "set the same volume for all tracks" that we currently have. There are many reasons for needing to turn of volume normalization (such as troubleshooting volume problems etc). Replaygain volume adjustments should be fully lossless when your dac is 24 bit.

Note to spotify - By using metadata, this should be totally seamless - E.g. If the exact same album is streamed, then local files should play at precisely the same volume as streamed files.

 

IF EITHER TAG IS MISSING FROM METADATA - "REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN" or "REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN" then spotify should not make any volume adjustment and it should produce the same result as having album mode or track mode not TICKED.

When installing spotify, the default should still be set to "set same volume for all tracks" like it it just now

 

Updated on 2018-10-05

Hey folks,

 

Thanks for coming to the Community!

 

We're checking back in, to keep you updated on this Idea.

When you play an album, we normalize the loudness level of that album at the same time.
If you're interested in some further info on this, we'd recommend checking out this FAQ, which we currently have up for artists.

We also have some more information on Audio Settings here.
Under Music Quality, you can switch Normalize volume on, or off.


Right now however, it's not possible to normalize local files. For that reason, we're changing this to case closed, as this isn't something we're going to work on.

Thanks.

Comments
JaxonC
Newbie

If you browse other bands that go back to the 80s, and sort albums by year, you will see a trend that dynamic ranges progressively got squashed starting in the mid-late 90s, and remasters are usually worse.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/

bartdelacourt
Newbie

 I totally agree with Ian's very well explained and thought out idea.

Please only apply volume normalisation, lower the standard to -16 LUFS, and no more limiting of any material.

Please allow the music to sound like it was intended by the artist.

andrewklimek
Newbie

Please take this suggestion seriously; the loudness feature is truly absurd.  Not only does it make the music sound bad, but it literally doesn't work as intended.  I shuffle a lot of jazz and loudness is usually more consistent with it off.

iluvjazznjava
Newbie

Here! Here!  Compression and limiting suck the life out music.  Stop it!

iluvjazznjava
Newbie

The way volume normalization currently works in Spotify (limiting, compresion) is a real downer and I am very much on the fence on whether I will continue with Spotify as a result.  I agree with this entirely - there should be a way to normalize replay gain for both individual tracks (for use in shuffle mode) and for whole albums (album mode).  Spotify is much better than Apple Music in a lot of ways, but this is a major difference and Apple has the implementation right.

crematedman
Community Legend

agreed +1

borkaadam
Casual Listener

Dear Spotify,

please.. set the volume normalization to -16 LUFS.

Itunes could do it.

Do you have any plans in this matter?

borkaadam
Casual Listener

PS: And stop using the limiter of course! 🙂

Thank You

rswiv2000
Newbie

Yes!   -16LUFS please!

 

 

xecutiv
Casual Listener

 +1 for this suggestion. Will be difficult to sell HiFi service without fixing this