The new august update to Spotify removed the ability to at a glance see which songs you had starred and replaced it with the new save functionality that is hidden in the same column as the song length. This design decision is a poor one as the saved check should have it's owen column, there is no good reason why it was put into the song length column and hidden in the first place. I hope this is changed quickly, because I don't like this trend of reduced functionalty...
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I've been a Premium Spotify user since the US Beta. Changes have finally reached the point where I decided to become vocal about my dislikes.
FACEBOOK INTEGRATION I DON'T HAVE A FACEBOOK. When I signed up for Spotify, I signed up for a streaming music service, not a Facebook add-on. As time progressed, Spotify made the HORRIBLE decision to get rid of usernames, forcing us to link to Spotify to Facebook. As a result, it became harder and harder to add my friends and share music. With the latest iOS update I CAN'T SHARE MUSIC AT ALL unless I link my Facebook. I have spent hundreds of dollars over the years on this service and I expect to be able to share music using Spotify's own username system - you know, like it was when I joined.
iPhone - SORT BY DATE ADDED
It is freaking IMPOSSIBLE to manage playlists using the app, on iPhone you can't sort by recently added. This means that if I want to listen to any music I've added to a playlist, I have to scroll down to the VERY BOTTOM of the list to see, or manually drag every individual song to the top of the list. This is possible on the iPad and PC app, but iPhone has gotten the shaft. The only way I can listen to new music on iPhone is by utilizing the Starred list. Which brings me to...
STARRED LIST Seriously. Who thought phasing this out would be a good idea? Does the Spotify team actually use Spotify? Until this comes back, I'm not sure how I'll be managing new tracks while listening on the go. I think there's enough negative feedback about this to get it brought back, but if not I guess I'll have to start comparing Spotify features to that of other streaming services. Ease of use is a very big priority, especially when I'm behind the wheel of a car when I use the app on the go.
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I'm sorry for the long read, but I would be very grateful if one of the developers would take the time to look through my thoughts and mockups, and give me actual feedback on it. If you don't care to read all the text, just jump right down to the mockups, it will give you a pretty good sense of what changes I'm aiming for. Give it some kudos! :) I love the Spotify service, but there are certain parts of the experience that can be extremely frustrating for users with larger music collections. After reading countless threads here on the community, it almost seems like the developers doesn't care about this minorty, because according to their data, "most users doesn't use the service this way blah blah blah..." I'm getting tired of it, and I'm getting tired of seeing Spotify prioritzing features that very few, or no people have requested, instead of the countless features/fixes that thousands of users have requested on this forum. I'm pretty sure the majority of the users on this community is not the casual music listener who only listens to a couple of the current hits, which Spotify has seemed to tailor the service for in recent years, aka "the average user". The fact that they based their implementation of "Your Music" on the amount of songs users had in "Starred" is ridiculous. The fact that they tailor the service for the average users is great, but that doesn't mean the "above average music fans" should be left out. There should be a middle ground so both ends of the spectrum can be satisfied by the service. I believe that is very doable, it's a matter of the developers actually implementing the most requested features here in this community. I understand that some of the development takes a lot of time, but I think Spotify should be more transparent and engaging in conversations with the users if they put highly requested features on hold (not right now).
I waited paitently over 12 months for the new "Your Music", but when the time came I was let down by its weird implementation and lacking features. The root of this problem is the 10000 song limit, but there are also several smaller problems that gradually builds it up to a nearly unusable feature in my eyes. The frustrating thing is that these things shouldn't be that hard to fix. Most of issues exists within the desktop application, I'm mostly satisfied with the android version. I actually find the mobile version of "Your Music" more usable than its desktop counterpart. It has better sorting and searching features and is actuallly faster to navigate and more visual.
I believe that the "Your Music" feature is fundamentally broken, and here are some of my suggestions to fix it. This is how it should have been implemented in the first place.
REMOVE the 10000 song limit. For gods sakes, please! I read in another thread that this limit is supposedly set is set for improved performance. I'ts understandable that this limitation is set, but not giving the user any response that they've reached the maximum limit is really bad. Users are left believing its a bug that is cause of the issue. Suddenly you cant save anything, without knowing why. Make the lists load in chunks for collections larger than 10000 songs, don't leave the users that have this out, just for the sake of the data you have on the "average user". Spotify is a community for music lovers. Let us have the option to create the collection we want, on our own terms. I can't use "Your Music" in its current state, mostly because of this.
Before "Your Music" launched I sorted everything through playlists and folders. I created a folder with seperate playlist for each artist, and I had to sort everything manually, it was cumbersome and time consuming. I also created playlist for new albums I listened to and eventually sorted them in folders for each year. I have done this since around 2009. It is was my way of having my own digital collection on a streaming service. Your Music should work as your own personal iTunes inside of spotify.Things start to get very unmanageble when you have hundreds of playlist in different folders in the side menu. Something needs to be done here. My suggestion for fixing folder clutter is enabling a folder to have it's own view on the desktop. This brings it more in line with how it looks on mobile and web. (BTW: Where is folder suppport on webclient?) It's more visual and a lot more manageable if you have a lot of playlist. Why not use the extra real estate that you have on a desktop, instead of cramming everything in the side menu. Here is a mockup of how it could function.
Example 1: http://i.imgur.com/n7dQHN0.jpg Example 2: http://i.imgur.com/F9D7iYW.jpg
Naturally I was excited when "Your Music" launched, and I instantly started the process of switching over my collection made of playlist and folders over to the new "Your Music" system. I quickly reached the 10k song limit, and I thought it was a bug, so I waited for ages for a fix, only to find out that Spotify weren't going to change it anytime soon as it was a "feature". There were also other issues I had with "Your Music" that made it less useful compared to my own playlist and folders system.
No "official" support for local files
Less sorting options compared to a regular playlist. Why?
Featureless artist view. Better to just go to full artist profile instead of what your music gives you.
Songs feature is basically useless, it's just ends up as a long list of songs. Starred functionality makes a lot more sense.
No ability to sort albums by year of release. only date added. This makes it unusable for users who frequently follows new albums.
Incredibly slow to navigate "artists" with only large images and no listview, and no search
Your Music redesign mockups:
Main view - collections: http://i.imgur.com/8MPG7l5.jpg Starting with the side menu we see that "Your Music" now has three tabs.Starred, Collection and Local Files "Songs" is removed in place for the old "Starred". The naming is not important, but the function of it is. This feature should act just as the old "Starred" , an easy way of adding new songs that you're checking out or favorite songs. This feature acts independently of the "Your Music" function. Right click a song and you have the option to add it to both "Starred" or "Collection" Next we see that "Artists" and "Albums" is merged together in one view. "Collection" is new the main view of "Your Music". When you press it you are greeted with a view of all you saved albums. A noticeable difference here is the extended sorting options for the albums view. With sorting option "Year" selected the albums get sorted and grouped by date of release. (the examples in the mockups are just random albums) There is also a added shuffle button which creates a queue with random songs from every album in the collection. To the left we se a new side menu with a search box, "All albums" and a list of artists. Pressing one of the artists takes you to your own personalised artist view, with only the songs you have added of the artist. Redesigned artists view Your Music: Example 1: http://i.imgur.com/juP2rpt.jpg Example 2: http://i.imgur.com/mEKO5uK.jpg
Here we can se a close similarity to the regular full artist profile. The main difference is that this is our own personalised view of the artist, with only the songs and albums that the user has added. This is especially useful for artists like Elvis and Johnny Cash which has endless of compilation albums with the same songs on the main artist page. Songss and albums are divided with its own albumart and info, there is no longer a long boring list. There is more sorting options, and also a search functionality. It supports local files You can switch between large album art and a list. Ability to see your most played songs by artist.
Other issues with Spotify:
Bring back "CTRL+G" view for playlists
Ability to hide apps in sidebar in a folder
A-Z scroll for android (artist view), example http://www.technologytell.com/gadgets/files/2012/12/action-launcher-app-menu.png
Better scaling of "Your Music" on different resolutions. eg. more albums on higher res screen.
Folders in WEB gui
More consistency between desktop, web and mobille. eg. album graphics for playlists/folder. (as showed earlier)
Same seach and sorting options for desktop, mobile and web. Why limit the desktop platforms? I realise that I'm most likely going to get the standard response of "divide ideas into separate topics". If someone liked some of the suggestions, feel free to do so. I know a lot of these issues have been mentioned numerous times before. I just had to go at this topic in one post, as I feel that a lot of the issues intertwine with each other. It's not a matter of fixing one single issue, but several issues, in order to make better "Your Music" experience for the user. The way "Your Music" works right now fundamentally needs to change.
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Many users, me included, are not satisfied with the new "Your Music" functionality. This is a complete description of how the benefits of "Your Music" could be combined with the benefits of "Starred" into a funcionality here called "Your Music 2.0"
To understand the idea I first need to pin-point some of the benefits/drawbacks of the new "Your Music"-way compared to the old "Starred"-way.
The benefits of using "Your Music": A - You can easily save an album without having to create a playlist just for that album B - For any song you save the artist is conveniently listed under "Artists" C - For any album you save the artist is conveniently listed under "Artists" D - For any song you save the album is conveniently listed under "Albums"
The drawbacks of using "Your Music": F - If you save full albums the "Song" section soon becomes too large and you might not love all songs in an album but still wants the full album saved. So then you'd have to use the old method of creating an album-playlist which is counterproductive. G - If you save multiple single tracks the "Album"-view will get totally messed up and you won't be able to easily distinguish your one-track-albums from you real-full-albums.
The benefits of using "Starred" and playlists: H - You can easily mark the full collection for offline mode, and new songs added are automatically downloaded for offline I - You can play Radio on your full "Starred"-collection K - When browsing songs in albums, search results etc. you see which songs are already starred L - You can filter the playlist to quickly find a song (or verify that a song is saved)
The drawbacks of using "Starred" and playlists: M - It's bothersome to save a full album because you have to create a playlist for it. And a playlist is not really an album because you could add other artists' songs etc. which allows for too many degrees of freedom.
Your Music 2.0: It works like this (and think of this being built on the basis of the current "Your Music"-functionality):
You still add songs by one-click on plus-button. And then a song is added the artist is added under "Artists" as it is now. BUT the album is not added under "Albums" because "Albums" should only be used for full albums (Maybe "Albums" should be renamed to "Full albums" for this to be more clear). This fullfills B, G
You can still easily add a full album to "Albums". But only full albums can exist in "Albums". And when adding an album the artist(s) are automatically added to "Artists". BUT the songs in the album are not automatically added to "Songs". (Maybe "Songs" should be renamed to "Single tracks" for this to be more clear). This fullfills A, C, F, G, M
You can easily mark the full "Songs"-collection for offline mode, and new songs added are automatically downloaded for offline. This fullfills H
You can play Radio on your full "Songs"-collection. This fullfills I
When browsing songs in albums, search results etc. you see which songs are already in "Songs". This fullfills K
You can filter the playlist to quickly find a song (or verify that a song is saved). This fullfills L
(All songs previously in "Starred" could be moved to "Songs". and the "Starred"-playlist could be removed. Not sure if this might be too disruptive for the users though. But at least some means for not having the confusing redundancy of both "Starred" and "Songs" because "Starred" is quite meaningless after "Your Music 2.0" has been implemented)
D is not fulfilled at all, but since it's in conflict with G, that's good because the lack of D is not as bad as the mess with G.
So with "Your Music 2.0" all the benefits of "Starred" will remain within "Songs". AND you get a much better way of saving full albums than in the old days when you have to create "album-playlists". AND with "Artists" you get a nice library of all artists behind you "Songs" and "Albums", where you can click on an Artist and see all those songs and album (and perhaps having songs/albums here visually separated too!?).
That's it! It's not even a major UI-remake, so it could be achieved quite easily and frictionless. But these few small tricks would really make Spotify work again. At least the way I like it to work!
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Although I don't like the new interface and the fact that you removed the star function (why, oh why?), I like the idea of having a "My Music" section.
Before the update I saved my albums in single playlists and I didn't really like it. I saved favorite songs by starring them and artists in their respective playlists. It was sort of messy - the number of playlists was growing ... With having the option to save an album in the album section of "My Music" and adding artists as well as songs all in their own department I was hoping for an improvement. Unfortunately, this didn't happen. Here's why:
1. Whenever a song is saved the album it occurs on is also saved. Whenever an album is saved, all songs of the album are added to the list of songs. IMHO that doesn't make any sense (at least to me) - I don't necessarily like the album which contains a song, so most often I don't want to save the album to the song I just saved. Or, the other way round, I don't want to have all songs of an album show up in the songs section. Why don't you let the user decide what to save? If I klick to save an album, let me choose if I want to have it added to "songs", if I save a song, let me decide if I want to save the album also.
2. Maybe it's just me, but how to save an artist? Only by adding an album or song, right? Why? (And no, I don't want to follow artists, that's a complete different concept in my point of view.) Let us add artists as well! And please, I don't want to have all their albums/songs in the other sections - I just want to remember an artist. That means, I don't want to always have artists added automatically from songs/albums I save - again, please let us choose.
3. There are no filters for artists or albums what makes it really (!!) difficult to find something. Please add filters!
4. Maybe an option section would be useful where every user can check what to save when, which theme the interface should have etc. (I'm sure there's more.)
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I primarily use Spotify daily while in my car because I am a Marketing Rep which requires my 9-5 is strictly behind the wheel. I've completely replaced my iPod with Spotify but I find it's hard to "Star" a song while on the road. I use my Star folder as a way to eventually organize those songs into my subfolders. I'm sure you know the way to Star a song already so I won't delve into those details but there is definite room to add a "Star" button by moving the "Last Song - Play - Next Song" buttons more to the left/right and placing the button there.
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As a long time Spotify user, I feel like my experience has degraded so much since I initially bought a subscription about four years ago. Every major update has removed my listening experience further and further from the "starred playlist" system that was initially implemented. I feel like I'm being neglected for being a loyal user. The first major update that irked me was when the "star" feature was removed. Every time I find a song I like, I add it to my starred playlist, as I was encouraged to do by Spotify, since that's how the system worked!! So, maybe two years ago, they removed the starred feature and now have the "save" feature where you can save songs, artists, and albums. This didn't have a terrible impact on my use of Spotify - it did take away the ease of simply clicking the star, now making me have to go through several clicks to add a song to my starred list, but that wasn't a big inconvenience. I also want to mention a huge flaw with the "save" feature that happened to me early in its implementation. My starred playlist consists of thousands of songs by many hundreds of artists. In the early days of the "saved" music system, I meant to send my starred playlist to a friend and accidentally hit "save" instead. I had previously used the "save" feature to save maybe 30 or 40 of my favorite artists. After that, it now had many of hundreds of artists that I don't want in my saved library, all because of one accidental click! And there's no simple "unsave" feature on the starred playlist - I'd have to remove each artist individually, a process that would take hours. So, the saved system was broken beyond repair from the early days for me. Still, I had been using the "starred" playlist with no big problem, untl today that is. I loved how the starred playlist showed my songs in the reverse order they were added, showing the most recently added at the top, so I could click the playlist and it would show the songs I was into recently without much effort or scrolling. Today, I clicked my starred playlist. At first, it displayed with most recently added at the top, as it always had. I wanted to hear a song by a particular artist, so I hit "sort" by artist and played it. To my dismay, when I clicked the artist sort field twice to get the playlist back to the default order, it was now reversed! The songs I initially starred four years ago were now at the top of my thousands-long playlist, and I have to scroll al the way to the bottom to get to the songs I've recently added, the songs I'm into at the moment and want to hear! This takes about twenty seconds of scrolling on my Mac. I suppose Spotify is trying to break away from the starred system, which wouldn't be a problem if people hadn't been using it for years. Now, my entire catalog of music is screwed up with no way to repair. It would still be an inconvenience, but I think it's insane that the "date added" sort feature was removed. If that was added back, I could at least use that feature to get my starred playlist back the way I like it. But, at the moment, my library is completely broken. All because Spotify decided to phase out a feature on which its most long-standing customers had grown to depend. I have been neglected for being with Spotify from the beginning. If there's not a fix to this available now, I'm going to start recreating my library on Google Play, which a friend of mine has and loves, and seems like a great service. That would be a huge pain, but at least I'd have my music library back.
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I often listen to music when I'm driving. And when driving, I like to listen to new playlists. At the moment there's no simple way to add current song to a playlist. Could there be some kind of gesture or a button short cut to add song to starred or whatever?
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I love the star list. Am using it as my main music library. It would be great to be able to scan this list easily by artist name. I know the artist name is on their currently however it is more difficult to see than the song name. For me artists names are much more memorable that song names so I want to first scan for an artist, then choose a song.
My suggestion is to simply enable a toggle view option for the starred list so that you can choose to have the Artist Name in the principle, bold, large font and the song + album name in the secondary, smaller, non-bold font.
I end up scanning my starred list looking at the smaller, harder-to-read text.
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Before the ability to save songs was added, I used to "Star" songs I heard playing that caught my ear. I used my playlists to organize music that I really liked and wanted to "save." This was great, because even though I wasn't necessarily using Spotify to discover new music, it was hands down the best tool for managing what I was discovering. After the "My Music" feature was rolled out, my playlists were already so robust and I was so used to doing this that I just started using my saved songs for this purpose. I don't think I'm alone in this.
When Spotify rolled out the "Browse" feature, my habbit of misusing the UI got even worse. Whether it was browsing categories in the app, sharing playlists with friends, Shazaaming something at a restaurant, or discovering songs through Pandora (or Spotify's radio, it's gotten a lot better!), I couldn't help but notice that there was nothing built into the app to facilitate this. I think a lot of users want a filter between the music we find and the music we keep. Just because it sounded good the first time I heard it doesn't mean I'll like it next week.
So as I think about the way I use Spotify, especially now, I can't help but notice this permanent playlist sitting there unused, and isn't even quickly accessible anymore (3 taps on mobile). It's been renamed to "Starred", which is a perfect name, but I feel like it's too buried. There has to be room in the UI to bring it back, and it could even be rebranded so it would have a clearer purpose..
Basically, I think a lot of Spotify users have various methods of temporarily saving music, and they all have to work around the UI to do it. Even adding the starred playlist as an option in the (...) menu would do a lot, and wouldn't be too hard. Just something to think about. :) Keep up the good work guys!
Edit: for clarity, this isn't another "bring back the starred playlist!" idea. I'm specifically suggesting there be a quick way to temporarily save a song.
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There has been a huge outcry all over the spotify community for the star system to come back. We're not asking that you scrap the "Your Music" feature. I believe that both of these systems can coexist peacefully. The only thing I have seen in response to the many complaints, is trying to appease users with the functionality the new system. We don't like it. I have used it for nearly a year and it will never be an adequate substitute for the star system. Both are good systems, but they have different functions. I don't see any reason spotify can't add a star next to the plus that is linked to the starred playlist. Please bring back the stars! You can keep the plusses too. We don't care, we just want our stars back. We are begging you!
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I go through public lists and save music that I like, but it's annoying to create a new playlist of that music once I've gone and sifted through the public playlists. I have to hold down cmd/ctrl and select each song individually. A feature where I could just say "Sort by: 'Your Music'" or "Sort by: "Starred'" would make it extremely easy to group selct music that I already own or have favorited so I can easily add it to a new mix or collect it into a pre-existing playlist.
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Make "Your Music" Searchable
- Songs, Albums, and Artists sub sections of Your Music should have drag down serachability.
- My thumb gets tired from scrolling.....
Make an "Offline" Switch for "Songs" section
- It's been done for the Albums and Artists and really needs to be done for the Songs section.
- If you have the space it allows you to add tracks to your music and have them be offiline when you need them (missed this about the "Starred" feature). Thanks for this great app!
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My need is following: I want to shuffle my starred music, but only the one I starred recently, for example last two months.
Is there any way I can do this now? (And NOT by creating a playlist of all the music that I added in past two months) The thing is that I want to spontaneously add new songs to that shuffle playlist, but also keep them in my all-time-starred music. I am currently doing this by adding to new playlist AND starring every new album or song, which is double work, extremely annoying and makes me think that either I am stupid or there is a function missing.
So, any thoughts?
If not I would suggest adding a functionality that will address this need.
It could be put in
Shuffling settings (shuffle only last ____ months, ;
adding a possibility to filter starred music (not just sort); or auto-generated 'my new music' playlist.
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Pretty sure this wouldn't be hard to implement, but a drag and drop editing feature for the starred playlist would be appreciated, as the order of my list is annoying and I shouldn't have to unstar then restar everything in the new order. Plus, because I starred a few RHCP tunes when I started it, they're the only artist on the preview thing and that's a bit annoying :')
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I personally find myself starring a lot of songs. What I have noticed is that if you navigate away from the songs page, if you are looking through an app or just searching around for the next song to listen to you actually loose the option to star the song that's playing at that time.
There should be a star option in the bottom left section that has the name of the song and the album. (right above the play button). This way you don't need to take extra steps and navigate away from what you are doing at that time.
Check out the bottom left hand side of the attached image to see what im talking about
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