Limit to 'offline' playlists?

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NSB
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Jpinto- I have several friends on Apple, and to my consternation, my wife is a steadfast fan. She also has both a high capacity iPad and iPhone, and has been enjoying Apple Music since its inception... While I cannot testify to the particulars of the system, I do know she remains quite happy with her long-standing subscription- especially the cross platform accessibility between her mobile devices and Mac computer. Can't speak to download limits or anything else of consequence except that she's happy, so I hope you'd be to. I hate bashing Spotify after such a love affair with them, but given the many other apps/services that seem to be able to negotiate licences which allow for happy end users in terms of offline listeners, I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for a good alternate until remedied... One would think with such a revolt on their hands, Spotify would renegotiate their contracts, as I'd happily pay a few more bucks per month for unlimited, or nearly unlimited downloads- a sentiment I'd bet many on here would echo!

Re: Limit to 'offline' playlists?

NSB
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@richbigman- will certainly keep the updates coming over this trial period... Should you (or anyone else for that matter) find an Android-friendly service you feel is superior to both Google Play Music and Spotify, pls do speak up!

Re: Limit to 'offline' playlists?

rille2
Casual Listener

NSB wrote:

Spotify would renegotiate their contracts, as I'd happily pay a few more bucks per month for unlimited, or nearly unlimited downloads- a sentiment I'd bet many on here would echo!

 

Really? The other services cost the same and have no limit. Why should I pay more? I doubt that Spotify will change anything. This topic is already 4 years old and nothing happened.

Re: Limit to 'offline' playlists?

jpinto3488
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Well, now everything is different. 4 years ago there were no good alternatives to spotify.

Right now there are a lot of alternatives and Apple Music is a strong competitor, so as soon as spotify will start loosing customers they will need to do something to get them back...but maybe will be too late.

 

I'm think that the "contracts" thing is just BS, this 3'333 limit is not something related with the contracts in my opinion, because it just would not make sense. Why the hell should the record labels impose a 10k total offline songs limit that must be splitted in 3 devices?

 

I think record lables may have imposed a limit of 10k per person, then spotify decided to split it in 3 devices, because it was unable to handle it in a different way.

 

So I think this 3.3k limit has nothing to do with contracts, but is something that spotify could just change, but they consider it a minor problem and are using their resources for doing other things, like the recently added playlist with the "new releases of the week", that always suggest ugly music, that's just a terrible feature.

 

I think Spotify is focusing on what they think is most important, instead of just listening to their users.

 

Spotify Staff: if you're reading, trust me, I don't need any new feature, all the new features you added recently are just BS that I don't use, spotify is perfect as is, the only thing that's wrong with spotify is the 3.3k offline songs limit. Just fix that.

Re: Limit to 'offline' playlists?

mrthody
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@octodur wrote:

@rille2 wrote:

@@octodur

What music are you listening? I found everything at the other streaming services too. If there were some songs that are not available, the same songs were not available at the other streaming services.

 

The Google Play Music App works fine at Android, for me more reliable as Spotify, Rdio or Deezer. Also Google has the best integration of your own music and you can use it in a family (max. 6 persons) for 15 EUR per month. Of course, the app could be better. They should let me the choice how to display the list of artists. A normal list (not the big tiles) would be better.

 

 



@rille2, I have a broad taste mate, it will just confuse you =)

 

Everything from Himachal Pradesh music: https://open.spotify.com/track/6hnRWgM4O06Bz1zSN5Ql9O

 

Old bollywood: https://open.spotify.com/track/6BmTsp2hjP2hkbEjFjhbL2

 

Didgeridoo: https://open.spotify.com/track/5UDlUWtmUwKoBrAjUtGaN5

 

Suomisound: https://open.spotify.com/track/2Ru9qksvy3ovX1iVP17RRu

 

Balkan music: https://open.spotify.com/track/1x7zcyWdaFTnINVmFb8pRa

 

Chiptunes: https://open.spotify.com/track/6JvrByUUlqZLDiyufnRRyw

 

Goa Trance: https://open.spotify.com/track/3wOAunmMdaMmSxs400cJX6

 

African Music: https://open.spotify.com/track/79pjd4nGakx3NHaJXCIBGC

 

Swedish Folk Music: https://open.spotify.com/track/13dx5AxXB6533G71ZV5WaE

 

Riddim: https://open.spotify.com/track/458QjTiw5RL2CovxJ1ison

 

Jewharp from Lativia: https://open.spotify.com/track/7KqZEq2OmUP43T0Hz2e6ki

 

More swedish Folk/etno: https://open.spotify.com/track/1O93tX0EveCWat8UXCXAqz

 

Swami Narayanan: https://open.spotify.com/track/4qTaxupanV0dyeE6W28qrK

 

Music i found last year in Arambol, Goa, India: https://open.spotify.com/track/3eqYbgAHl3Bmf8ursiYkOD

 

 

So you can see, I am VERY diverse in my taste and i want to have the availability to listen to what ever i want at what time. I am couriuos though if you will find any of these tracks on another service. Last time i tried to switch was more than 1,5 years ago. Im sure 10-30% will be available but most of them wont.

 

The app for google, sure works fine, pretty ok fast, but the GUI is just horrid mate. I used to work with Graphics art and sometimes made gui's myself and the interface for google music...i have no words. I gave it a month to try to get used to it but just got anyoyed i cant see wtd is playing atm, not with full name at least. And a lot lot more that made me not erase Spotify =)


Just for fun I randomly tried to find 5 of you songs on Deezer. All 5 showed up...might be worth a try. I've had Spotify, Rdio, Apple Music, Google Play and Deezer. None of these services are perfect but I am the most pleased with Deezer and have had it for about a year now.

Re: Limit to 'offline' playlists?

jpinto3488
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After some searching, looks like Deezer has not offline limit, better quality than spotify and a bigger catalogue... I'll try it right now.

 

It is even supported on my Onkyio receiver (like spotify).

Re: Limit to 'offline' playlists?

jpinto3488
Regular

wow... just tried Deezer, this is what I found out

 

PROS:

1 - There's away to import playlists from spotify to deezer with this: http://spotizr.com/ tried and works

2 - Deezer app on windows 10 is MUCH faster and better integrated with the system

3 - Sound quality seems better to me, I find the sound on deezer more clear with better defined highs

 

CONS:

1  - I tried to import only a playlist with 6 songs and 1 of them was missing! This is not a nice start

2 - There are no RAMMSTEIN on Deezer! WTF!!

 

From my first impressions, Deezer looks better in terms of quality and software, but looks like the catalogue is not as good as spotify

 

EDIT 08.04.2016 15:11:

After playing around with deezer a little more, I see many basic functions are missing, like "shuffle all music", or the ability to select multiple albums and add them to a playlist.

I think right now spotify offers an overall better experience, since the software has more features, but in the near future Deezer may be better, since it has better quality sound, no offline limits and a faster, better integrated software.

Re: Limit to 'offline' playlists?

octodur
Roadie
Ill have a look at it =) How does it help you find new music is my next question? Like artist radio, similar artists, playlists/radio based on what i've listened on so far? Most probably 40-50% of my new music is discovered this way through Spotify =)

Re: Limit to 'offline' playlists?

octodur
Roadie

did a playlist transfer with http://sync.spotizr.com/ crashed in the middle somewhere, but yeah, its not find all the music i have in my lists, so to be frank, its not a option for me.

 

Giving me crappy suggestions:

 

Add music to your My Music tab
Here are some suggestions based on your listening habits and our editorial picks:

 

Disney Greatest Hits

by Various Artists

 

Heroes on Tour

by Sabaton

 

Group Therapy 175

by Above & Beyond

 

Follow one of these artists.
Here are some suggestions based on your listening habits and our editorial picks:

Justin Bieber, Rihanna, ZAYN....

 

yes pls...haha

Re: Limit to 'offline' playlists?

mrthody
Regular

@octodur wrote:

did a playlist transfer with http://sync.spotizr.com/ crashed in the middle somewhere, but yeah, its not find all the music i have in my lists, so to be frank, its not a option for me.

 

Giving me crappy suggestions:

 

Add music to your My Music tab
Here are some suggestions based on your listening habits and our editorial picks:

 

Disney Greatest Hits

by Various Artists

 

Heroes on Tour

by Sabaton

 

Group Therapy 175

by Above & Beyond

 

Follow one of these artists.
Here are some suggestions based on your listening habits and our editorial picks:

Justin Bieber, Rihanna, ZAYN....

 

yes pls...haha


Hey there...I've found  that when using the migration services out there, they often leave songs out that are actually available.  I've noticed this when switching between Rdio, Spotify and Deezer. It's annoying but if you manually search tracks that didn't come over you can often find them. It's the price you pay to switch unfortunately and I think it just a function of slightly different track tagging from service to service. On average when I move a playlist of 100 songs there will be at least 15 missing whether I'm migrating to or from either Spotify, Deezer or the now buried Rdio.

 

I would play around with it for a bit and see if you like the way it works...also try to randomly search some of the missing tracks that didn't migrate. I don't look at the music it suggests for me so I can't comment on that. When I play my "flow" though it always comes up with great suggestions based on my collection.

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