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My Question or Issue
This is the first time my Discover Weekly has contained any disliked songs and suddenly there are 16 disliked songs. Anyone see this before? Any ideas what may have happened?
Thanks Rod
Hey @nighthawk989,
Thanks for getting back to us.
That's odd. You should be able to find this using the mobile app.
If you're still unable see them, would you mind letting us know the app version you're currently running?
Keep us posted.
Hi @nighthawk989,
Thanks for your reply.
Just to confirm, are you able to find the songs you've already hidden?
If you could include a screenshot of how you see things on your end, it would be helpful too.
We'll be on the lookout for your reply.
Hi again @nighthawk989,
Not to worry. Could you let us know roughly how many artists and tracks you might have hidden?
Also, would you mind giving us a rough estimate of how often you use this feature?
Keep us in the loop.
Hey @nighthawk989,
Thanks for getting back to us. We totally understand this.
However, having a very rough estimate would still be helpful. Do you think it might have been several hundreds or more?
We'll keep an eye out for your reply.
Hey @nighthawk989,
Thank you for your reply.
It seems that our discovery algorithm is having a hard time finding new recommendations for you. This can happen if a large amount of songs or artists are hidden, which has a snowball effect that related songs are also not considered for recommendations. To populate the DW playlist, the system is ignoring some of the tracks you've hidden.
We're continuously trying to improve our recommendations and as you listens to more music that you like, the Discover Weekly will improve.
Take care!
So i guess i have only to hope that it will fix by itself? Anyway thanks for explaining cleary the problem and admitting that the algorythm has some issues.
Hi Jeremy
I'm the original poster in this thread and unfortunately, I haven't been about to respond in the last 2 weeks.
I can confirm that since the first occurrence of this issue (16 hidden songs included in my DW list) I had 9 last week and 13 today.
Also, I can confirm I haven't hidden any artists, only songs
Just one observation about the algorithm and the number of hidden songs, if the algorithm was more effective in the first place, then the number of hidden songs wouldn't be so high.
For my fellow subscribers who are similarly disaffected, I have found some success in exploring music aligned to my tastes by using www.gnoosic.com. Until Spotify can address this annoyance, I will continue to make use of this site. However it would be so much easier if Spotify did the discovery effectively.
Cheers
Rodstar
Hey everyone,
We hear you and we completely understand the situation for you currently is less than ideal.
Music discovery and recommendations are a top priority for us and we're doing our best to improve on those with the resources we have. For now, the suggestion would be to try and listen to some new artists you might have already discovered and tracks related to them, including using the Like Song feature, to fuel what Discover Weekly can work with.
We hope your experience will get better with time as we keep tweaking this.
Thank you for your constructive feedback!
This week my DW contained 3 songs I've previously hidden, and again, several I've heard many many times before. I hide songs because i don't want to hear that song or really any song related to it, so I hide them hoping to influence my auto playlists away from songs related to it. According to your answer, it sounds like that should be helping, not hurting. As i mentioned, i only have ONE artist hidden, and it actually shows that I've hidden NO songs (see screenshot). As far as I can tell, I can't hide songs altogether anyway, only in specific playlists. I would estimate i've hidden maybe 50-100 songs across all my autogenerated playlists. All last week I only listened to my own or others playlists, nothing autogenerated. It did not seem to influence this week's DW at all.
It used to be (maybe 2 or 3 years ago) that every week my DW was a totally different flavor, and all the songs were from artists i'd never heard of, and it was all new and interesting. Now it's basically the exact same flavor every week despite the fact that i listen to a wide range of genres and styles throughout the week. I do use the 'like song' feature a lot but it doesn't seem to influence anything related to DW (at least not anymore). It's like it's stuck in a rut recycling the same type of stuff every week and now unbelievably, songs I've already hidden.
Like I said, with tens of millions of songs and tens of thousands of artists on spotify, it should NOT be hard to generate a playlist that is genuinely new to me.
is there some way to 'reset' DW? If I can't do some sort of reset, please fix the algorithms. I'd really like to be able to use it again.
This week improvements seems to happen, even if i still got 7 tracks already disliked. This time so is 23 new tracks over 30, better than 6, 12 and 17 from last weeks. Seems somehow encouraging, hope next week we will be even more close if not full 30/30 as usually... i will wait thanks to that signs of improvement.
Hi nighthawk989
Thanks for your update, I am pleased it's improving for you. However it was a new record for me, there were 17 hidden songs on my DW list.
This problem has persisted for 4 weeks now and Spotify, if you are tuning in, it is beyond a joke.
Please Spotify, fix the problem. Or worse case, mask the problem. Programmatically, the last check before including on the list should be whether I have hidden the song. If I have, ditch it, and suggest another song that is not hidden...keep doing this until you have 30 non-hidden songs. It is excruciatingly simple.
Man, that's not good at all. It's ridicolous, just like the shuffle algorythm totally broken (for me since september 2020). I "think" (because i'm not really sure what will happen next week, maybe i'll have so much disliked tracks like you again) i solved by tagging the whole artist/band as unliked or to save a song as liked even though is nothing special... but it's just my guess, next week we'll see if i can have still 23 or better close to 30 new tracks or i will see again a lot of hidden tracks...
No improvements for me this week, although I'm not getting as many hidden songs as others. This week I had 3 already hidden, and 16 tracks that have already streamed multiple times - already very familiar with them. Last week I made a point to listen to stuff that sounds totally different from the rut my DW seems to be stuck in. I also used the Like Song feature on a bunch of new and different songs. It didn't seem to influence it at all, it's just more of the same every week. I agree with rodstar that it must be simple to programmatically check whether i have hidden a song before including it. IMO it should also be simple to check whether I have streamed that song before. If i have, don't include it. I don't want songs I have heard over and over already in my "discovery" playlist. I really hope that this is being fixed.
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