[All Platforms] Option to have a true shuffle

[jonathanleyerle]

So I’ve been noticing more and more recently that Spotify’s default shuffle feature doesn’t fully shuffle your songs. It does some sort of grouping to try to get similar songs together based off of what I’m sure is dozens of factors. Every time I shuffle a playlist (the one I noticed this with the most is ~100 songs and 6 hours of mostly full albums) it will group the songs mostly or completely together by album/artist, and given the number of times I’ve re-shuffled and checked the order there’s no way it’s just a coincidence. They also generally seem to be in the same order as well. If I hit shuffle play on a playlist it’ll generally put the same artists at the beginning every time.

With larger playlists of albums I am really not a fan of this shuffling method. If I have 6 hours of music on a playlist I will hardly ever have 6 hours to actually listen through the whole thing, but when I do listen to it I would like to hear all of the music on it equally, and not just the artist or two your algorithm likes to shuffle to first.

Anyways, I’m a reasonable man, all I’m asking for is an option to have a true shuffle (take all songs in the list, put them in a random order, and once they’re all played reshuffle them and play them again). Make it premium only if you want. I don’t think you should scrap the current shuffle algorithm because it sucks. Looking at some of the suggestions on here it seems like some people lobbied hard to have it that way. Just add an option for a true shuffle for those of us that don’t care about potentially getting the same song twice in a row.

[tollaut]

If your shuffle algorithm is set to play the most played songs then that's possibly the worst algorithm I've seen!

There is a reason we build playlists so that shuffle can play all of them randomly.  There are songs in my playlists I only heard once If I wanted to hear the same songs over and over again, I'd loop the playlist.

The smart shuffle is a mistake - I'm forced to skip 95% of recommendations!  Useless!

[teollo]

In outer space, we scream alone,,,,,,,,,,,,, but together

[phineasroberts]

It’s baffling why Spotify still has not done something like this. It is so frustrating to skip through the same songs every time I play a big playlist. It’s like the company is allergic to giving people features and fixes that they actually want. It took long enough to add the multi playlist add feature. And still no option to add multiple songs to a playlist at once. It’s almost tiring to use the mobile app.

[disc_count]

it's not baffling when you understand the (unfortunate for us) forces that drive the design of the app. the app is not primarily designed to maximize the positive experience of the user. it is to maximize the profit of the whole system

[Undeterred]

Spotify is motivated by profit, no problem with that. However, it seems like the current business model does not support improving the customer experience, actually customers do not get what they are paying for. You have to wonder why. Because who benefits when only a small sample of a paying customers selections are played repeatedly? Really, who benefits? Think about it, the songs and artists I hear over and over again may not be the same as another paying customer who has a different listening profile. So who is winning out of this arrangement?
 

[dank13]

Most likely Spotify gets paid by record labels to play their artists and songs, we pay to listen...

But the business model is completely wrong, because the moment we stop paying, and stop listening, they won't have anyone to play those repetitive songs to.... 

I'm listening to Apple Music more and more lately, and haven't been missing Spotify that much, the app Free Your Music, helped me transfer all my playlists to Apple Music, so soon I'll be cancelling my family subscription to Spotify, I just need to move my wife and my son to Apple Music, and good bye Vankers! Spotify can sink into a deep hole and go broke... I couldn't care less... no proper shuffle, no Apple home pod support... after 16 years giving my money to them, it time to take my money elsewhere, where they listen to what you have to say.

it might not be Apple Music, might be YouTube Misic, Amazon, anywhere but Spotify.

[Twstanley72]

My apple music doesnt have music. Do you mean iTunes? Then you play your
itunes music on apple music. I dont like itunes. They have less artists. I
can gind artists on spotify that i cant on apple music. And spotify will
shuffle my local file songs into the same playlist as streamed songs. I
love this feature. Lets says i find an artist spotify doesnt have. For
instance “a burning water”. I have this album ripped on my pc. I then move
the files to my phone. From there i add those songs to my “liked songs”
playlist. It will then play my diwnloaded songs as if it was on spotify. I
dont have to use a different app to listen to it. So i found what spotify
us missing then added to my playlist via my pc.

[dank13]

You need to update your iOS and Mac OS, iTunes doesn't exist for a good while now... it's called Apple Music, and if you subscribe to it there is loads of music like Spotify... 

[Twstanley72]

I must not know how to use i then. My ios is up to date. When i had a free
3 month subscription to apple music i tried using it and it didnt have any
music i searched. Right now i can only use radio stations. But in library
its says “music purchased from itunes or added from your pc will apear
here” and theres nothing there. So i find apple music to be useless to me.
With spotify i have every song i ever wanted to hear.

[Darth_GTB]

@Mitre226644, no need to be true random. All you need is preventing repetition by having an actual shuffle