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[All Platforms] Option to have a true shuffle

So I’ve been noticing more and more recently that Spotify’s default shuffle feature doesn’t fully shuffle your songs. It does some sort of grouping to try to get similar songs together based off of what I’m sure is dozens of factors. Every time I shuffle a playlist (the one I noticed this with the most is ~100 songs and 6 hours of mostly full albums) it will group the songs mostly or completely together by album/artist, and given the number of times I’ve re-shuffled and checked the order there’s no way it’s just a coincidence. They also generally seem to be in the same order as well. If I hit shuffle play on a playlist it’ll generally put the same artists at the beginning every time.

 

With larger playlists of albums I am really not a fan of this shuffling method. If I have 6 hours of music on a playlist I will hardly ever have 6 hours to actually listen through the whole thing, but when I do listen to it I would like to hear all of the music on it equally, and not just the artist or two your algorithm likes to shuffle to first.

 

Anyways, I’m a reasonable man, all I’m asking for is an option to have a true shuffle (take all songs in the list, put them in a random order, and once they’re all played reshuffle them and play them again). Make it premium only if you want. I don’t think you should scrap the current shuffle algorithm because it sucks. Looking at some of the suggestions on here it seems like some people lobbied hard to have it that way. Just add an option for a true shuffle for those of us that don’t care about potentially getting the same song twice in a row.

Updated on 2021-09-14

Hey everyone,

 

Thanks for your votes and for bringing us your feedback in the Spotify Idea Exchange.

 

As this idea has gathered a fair amount of votes, we've discussed it with the relevant team once again. We actually want to take a closer look at what you're experiencing and get some of you in touch with our devs.

 

@jonathanleyerle- since you initiated the thread it would be great if we can have you on board.

@j4m1eb, @PrestonSale@decker12@jules99- what you mention is particularly interesting, so we'd like to have you on board as well.

 

We'll send you more info via Community PM, so please make sure they're enabled in your Community settings.

 

If anyone else is interested in participating, please let us know in this thread. We'll reach out to you, should we need more folks.

 

Thanks!

Comments
scriptessa

Still waiting for true shuffle. I have a few large playlists, one that I listen to every morning for a half hour. It's 11 and a half hours long and I hear the same songs every day. It's worse when I turn on smart shuffle hoping to get a few new songs to add. I get a new song here and there, but way more repeats of what I heard yesterday. How are we 2+ years later on this feedback and no resolution yet??

rozeboosje

"How are we 2+ years later on this feedback and no resolution yet??"

BECAUSE

THEY

DON'T

CARE

That's it. Simple as that. The peanuts you pay for your "premium" subscription are a joke to them.

fufy

Jumping on the thread to say that when we need to use 3rd party apps to actually shuffle our music it's not hard to see how we start cancelling subscription for a better service. I love Spotify, but this has been going on for far too long. 😕 

rozeboosje

"when we need to use 3rd party apps to actually shuffle our music it's not hard to see how we start cancelling subscription for a better service".

 

Couldn't have said it better. I honestly think Spotify as a service deserves to die because of this, but I would really love to see somebody from Spotify come here to explain why, of all the mindnumbingly stupid hills they could have chosen, it is this particularly imbecilic hill they chose to die on.

Mookpsu
So for all the people who still believe Spotify is going to implement a
true random shuffle (despite the last 4+ years indicating otherwise) let me
tell you about my experience with Amazon Music over the last two days.
Yesterday I wanted to hear my "Who Favs" playlist in honor of Roger
Daltrey's 80th birthday. All I had to do was open up the app, open up the
playlist, hit play and hit shuffle. As of today I'm probably about 6+ hours
into a 12 hour playlist and not a single song has been played twice and
this will continue until every song has been played. And I will know when
that has happened because it will stop playing. Best of all, if I decide to
take a break to listen to something else, I can simply pause the playlist
on my phone and open up the app on my tablet because unlike Spotify, Amazon
Music allows to listen to one thing on one device, and something else on
another without forcing you to cough up another $4.99 a month for his
"luxury". It's time to let go people, break free of the ties that bind you!
The grass really is greener on the other side!
Jimbob93

https://twitter.com/MarkCal12452718/status/1733906758869913984 I tweeted @SpotifyCares about this issue and I would encourage everybody to do the same. It's easy for Spotify to ignore this thread. If the twitter admin gets spammed by hundreds of people, the issue might get escalated.

rozeboosje

I guess I would if I were still paying for Spotify Premium, but I'm not. Also, a Spotify employee responded to this thread, what, 2 years ago now pretending to care and since then..... *crickets*.... *a lone tumbleweed blows through the thread*.... *in the distance, a howling wolf*.

 

If they didn't fix this problem then, what makes you think they will use the ex birdsite for anything other than to fob you off.... if they respond at all.

alexjobi

Well I think it worth a try to make pression on Spotify. On my side, I thought to contact a techno journalist from a reputable site if he could write something about this problem.

 

Just a side note, I tried YT Music and I have problems when casting my music to a Google speaker. Music will stop after ~30 minutes without any reason and if the song play on the speaker and I want to change it, YT Music on my phone might be out of sync with the speaker song and I have to reconnect to my speaker.

 

So other providers have annoying bugs too. I might try Amazon Music soon.

fufy

I have followed up on the thread... I think, I suck at X, lol.

But yeah it is a shame because the platform is stable, the library is big and the sound quality vs data consumption is good. And all of this is thrown away because I can't get the thing to stop playing the same songs over and over again. Then it decides they are my absolute favorite tracks of all time since I listen to them so much and starts stuffing them in playlists made for me and it just spirals, hahah. 😁

ErikInTheBronx

I am finding that I really am not enjoying Spotify much at this point.

Trying to use my "big bucket" playlist sequentially, remembering where I was is bad enough.  But because I dumped music into it in blocks, without randomness, I might as well just be listening to a single artist's "best of" playlist.

Random skipping is obviously denied me (that's the point of this whole thread), so I wind up skipping forward manually while driving, for example.  Not only a distraction, but an unpleasant annoyance that often results in spending half my time trying to find a good song out of the "genre block" in my playlist.

Companies that do this sort of thing may rake in the bucks for a few years.  But they can't hold the niche if the folks who pay the bills in the end aren't happy.  I've heard it proposed that the real customers are the record companies, but no, they're the paying account folks like us.  Because if we get unhappy and start to really seek other options en masse, the record company payola is gonna dry up with a quickness.