[All Platforms] Option to have a true shuffle

[jonathanleyerle]

So I’ve been noticing more and more recently that Spotify’s default shuffle feature doesn’t fully shuffle your songs. It does some sort of grouping to try to get similar songs together based off of what I’m sure is dozens of factors. Every time I shuffle a playlist (the one I noticed this with the most is ~100 songs and 6 hours of mostly full albums) it will group the songs mostly or completely together by album/artist, and given the number of times I’ve re-shuffled and checked the order there’s no way it’s just a coincidence. They also generally seem to be in the same order as well. If I hit shuffle play on a playlist it’ll generally put the same artists at the beginning every time.

With larger playlists of albums I am really not a fan of this shuffling method. If I have 6 hours of music on a playlist I will hardly ever have 6 hours to actually listen through the whole thing, but when I do listen to it I would like to hear all of the music on it equally, and not just the artist or two your algorithm likes to shuffle to first.

Anyways, I’m a reasonable man, all I’m asking for is an option to have a true shuffle (take all songs in the list, put them in a random order, and once they’re all played reshuffle them and play them again). Make it premium only if you want. I don’t think you should scrap the current shuffle algorithm because it sucks. Looking at some of the suggestions on here it seems like some people lobbied hard to have it that way. Just add an option for a true shuffle for those of us that don’t care about potentially getting the same song twice in a row.

[oddindeed]

I AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING FOR YOU STOP PLAYING THE SAME SONGS

[speedlock]

I'm in the same exact boat.  I can't read through all 179 pages but just wanted to add my two cents.  As a software engineer, this isn't hard to implement at all. 

My only guess is, they are getting paid to purposely shuffle certain songs to the top which in turn causes the shuffle feature to not be a true shuffle.  In my opinion, there's no reason to add any type of algorithm to a shuffle feature unless there's another agenda.

I really miss Grooveshark 😞 

[pooyair]

@Moderators
this feedback made by me around less than a year ago. Recently I have noticed that my first post has been edited and the credit appears for someone else. I spent lots of time and energy to provide several feedback. This is not fair that the credits are not applied to me. At least on the first page of this feedback topic you should (must) write my user and the second persons beside each other. If you would not I will stop sharing feedback on Spotify. Good Bye! Pooya

[Giaan]

Plan

Premium

Country

UK

Device

Iphone 13

Operating System

iOS

My Question or Issue

Please, please, please can we have a feature where spotify gives us a true shuffle of the playlist. Perhaps something to enable in settings, or for a particular playlist, similar to turning off Automix but more extreme. There are so many posts online from people who want this. I've had to resort to this tool [external link removed by Mod] to actually allow me to hear the songs that Spotify wants to hide from me using its "smarter" (but in reality, worse) shuffle algorithm.

[JosefDeKrita]

If this really is a money issue, I see no reason why it couldn't be a feature available to Premium users. The only reason I stay on Premium is because someone in my family pays for the family plan, otherwise I would be wary of spending money on a service that doesn't give its users a basic feature such as random shuffle.

[dank13]

If you listen to this interview podcast on Hard Fork podcast you can understand why Spotify will NEVER do a true shuffle for us.

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/hard-fork/id1528594034?i=1000689951216

basically it's all about money... and the way Spotify pays artists for listening hours on the platform.

for starters there is a minimum cap an artist needs to get before he gets paid, so if you are an artist you only get paid once you reach the minimum threshold. So Spotify will tend to favorite artists that are less played so they don't have to pay them.

Also there are artists that get paid once and they will lose rights for the song, so no matter how many plays they get, they won't get paid, Spotify will favorite those again.

There is a bit more to it but yeah it's pure money...

worth listening to the podcast...

[pooyair]

@Moderators or Admin or Administrator 

why are you ignoring my request. I have started this post myself and this post get more than 4500 likes. Recently i notice someone remove my credit for sharing my feedback.i already have shared a lots more interesting feedback for Spotify.This is really your last chance to add my user beside the first post and shared the credit for both. Other wise i leave here and I won’t waste my time and energy anymore.

Cheers!
Pooya

[pooyair]

Seems really nobody cares about my valuable development feedback so now time to change.Such a shame. Bye Bye everyone from Spotify forever.
Pooya 

[Jpsoares7]

Please make this a "thing" ASAP.  What's the point of a "shuffle" feature if it just keeps playing the same songs in the same sequence every time I listen to a particular playlist? I added songs to a playlist because I like them and want to periodically hear them again, not because I want the same sequence to come up again and again.

[zx6dude]

They haven't fixed it in over 5 years, I don't think that they will - It would cost them money. 

Greed is such an ugly thing.