[iOS] Apple Watch: Spotify Streaming and Offline Listening

Apple Watch: Offline Listening

 

watchOS 5 should allow Spotify to develop an app that allows offline listening and streaming via cellular data.

 

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Updated on 2019-09-18

Hey folks,

We wanted to post an update as a lot of you have added your votes to this idea. 

We’re always working on improving the Spotify experience across platforms, but we’re afraid we don’t have any further information to share at the moment.


We typically don't announce integrations with third parties in advance. The best place to keep an eye on is on the Spotify Newsroom blog for updates about any partnerships.

 

Thanks for continuing to share your ideas!

Comments
bernzify
Newbie

Clearly Apple is playing nasty with Spotify (read on); and perhaps they're winning since — as seen here — folks are migrating to Apple's proprietary version.

 

If Apple keeps this up, I won't be migrating to Apple music, I will instead be switching from my Apple Watch to another Spotify ​friendly watch. On principle alone, I'll gladly dump all my Apple devices (and apps) for Spotify and Spotify accommodating devices. If anyone here is wondering what I'm talking about, check out: https://www.timetoplayfair.com/timeline/​

 

And, so you know, I have zero affiliation to Spotify other than being a subscriber.

Rahoulb
Regular

@bernzify wrote:

Clearly Apple is playing nasty with Spotify (read on); and perhaps they're winning since — as seen here — folks are migrating to Apple's proprietary version to compete with Spotify.

 

If Apple keeps this up, I won't be migrating to them, I will instead be switching from my Apple Watch to another Spotify ​friendly watch. On principle alone, I'll gladly dump all my Apple devices (and apps) for Spotify and Spotify accommodating devices. If anyone here is wondering what I'm talking about, check out: https://www.timetoplayfair.com/timeline/​

 

And, so you know, I have zero affiliation to Spotify other than being a subscriber.


 

Yes and no.

 

There is stuff that Apple is withholding that is giving them an unfair advantage - in particular Spotify cannot access SiriKit, so we can't have full Siri integration.  

 

However Spotify can access Siri Shortcuts, which isn't as flexible as SiriKit but means we could build our own Siri integrations.  But Spotify has had access to this since June last year and chooses not to implement it.  Other third-party audio apps have already done so.  

 

Likewise, Apple was the only one that could play background audio on WatchOS - until WatchOS 5.  Spotify has had access to this since June last year and chooses not to implement it.  Other third-party audio apps have already done so. 

 

In Apple's defence - this is how they do things; they release stuff for their own use first, then when it's been tested in the wild, they open it up to third parties.  As I say, they've NOT done this with SiriKit for music integration - but for pretty much everything else that people are complaining about, the ball is in Spotify's court and they are refusing to do it.  

 

 

toenni13
Casual Listener

Completely agree with @Rahoulb here. Spotify not making a usable AW App has nothing to do with the AppStore fee that Spotify is trying not to pay. Companies are allowed to make offline playing and streaming apps on the AW and Spotify simply chooses not to do them. No one knows why but if they think I’ll toss my AW, iPhone and MacBook away for a music streaming platform they’re out of their minds. 



bernzify
Newbie

So am I to believe that the https://www.timetoplayfair.com is propaganda by Spotify (or someone else)? I'm curious to know how you know all that you stated?

toenni13
Casual Listener

No it’s not propaganda, everything they state on that site is probably valid. I’m guessing they have legal fights with apple over those things and it’s good that they fight them out. But their issues with the payment system that apple has, have nothing to do with them not doing a proper AW App. They’re allowed to do it but chose not to. 

bernzify
Newbie

Thanks for this perspective. I'll wait and see where things go from here

asdasdasdassdsa
Newbie

 

Yeah, spot on! I think it's an extremely curious case here, in that what is essentially happening is Spotify trying to leverage its customer loyalty to blackmail Apple. It seems they are deliberately withholding offline playback from AW, to rally the troops and get Apple change its stance over App Store fees. 

 

Now it's very interesting to see if it works even to a small degree. Can't think of many besides Spotify (Amazon and Netflix too!) who could do such a thing. But will it work? 

 


@toenni13 wrote:

Completely agree with @Rahoulb here. Spotify not making a usable AW App has nothing to do with the AppStore fee that Spotify is trying not to pay. Companies are allowed to make offline playing and streaming apps on the AW and Spotify simply chooses not to do them. No one knows why but if they think I’ll toss my AW, iPhone and MacBook away for a music streaming platform they’re out of their minds. 




Rahoulb
Regular

@bernzify wrote:

So am I to believe that the https://www.timetoplayfair.com is propaganda by Spotify (or someone else)? I'm curious to know how you know all that you stated?


 

All the Siri/Apple Watch information was announced and made available at Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference (an event for software developers which happens every June).  

 

The Time to Play Fair site is Spotify's site to back up their legal case against Apple about App Store fees.  It is truthful, but like most things, it is written from one perspective because it's there to do a particular job. 

 

 

leviE
Composer

Sounds cool and it would be really cool to listen to music without your phone.

Jdmboy2011
Newbie

The European Union's antitrust body is set to launch a formal investigation into Apple on claims that the tech giant's App Store policies hinder competitors of its Apple Music service