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Dear Spotify,
I'm facing slow streaming issue using Spotify Apps. I've 2 lines provided by ISP. Both lines are 10 Mbps speed. I've verify my network speed, and looks like no problem with the network. Both lines having different IP address as below
1st line - 121.121.x.x - Slow and Buffering
2nd line - 14.192.x.x - Smooth
I'd done further analysis by performing packet capturing while streaming Spotify music via Spotify Desktop Apps and make a comparison between both lines.
Listening to Spotify Music using Desktop Apps with 121.121.X.X IP address (SLOW and BUFFERING)
377 packets seen, 6243 TCP packets traced elapsed wallclock time: 0:00:00.198570, 32114 pkts/sec analyzed trace file elapsed time: 0:04:44.079119 TCP connection info: 1: sjc1-accesspoint-a15.sjc1.spotify.com:4070 - 192.168.1.85:56185 (a2b) 3083> 3024< 2: 192.168.1.85:60293 - 121.123.204.203:80 (c2d) 8> 7< 3: 192.168.1.85:52665 - 121.123.204.162:80 (e2f) 8> 7< 4: 192.168.1.85:34646 - server-54-230-157-182.sin3.r.cloudfront.net:443 (g2h) 4> 3< (reset) 5: 192.168.1.85:34647 - server-54-230-157-182.sin3.r.cloudfront.net:443 (i2j) 3> 2< (reset) 6: 192.168.1.85:34648 - server-54-230-157-182.sin3.r.cloudfront.net:443 (k2l) 4> 3< (reset) 7: 192.168.1.85:34650 - server-54-230-157-182.sin3.r.cloudfront.net:443 (m2n) 2> 1< 8: 192.168.1.85:34649 - server-54-230-157-182.sin3.r.cloudfront.net:443 (o2p) 2> 1< 9: a23-41-69-163.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com:80 - 192.168.1.85:36244 (q2r) 2> 2< 10: 192.168.1.85:54301 - edge-star-shv-09-sin1.facebook.com:443 (s2t) 14> 14< (complete) (reset) 11: 192.168.1.85:36246 - a23-41-69-163.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com:80 (u2v) 12> 8< (complete) 12: 192.168.1.85:50654 - sin01s16-in-f1.1e100.net:80 (w2x) 4> 3< 13: 192.168.1.85:33391 - sin01s15-in-f0.1e100.net:80 (y2z) 12> 10<
TCP Port use for Spotify Media transfer is TCP connection number 1
sjc1-accesspoint-a15.sjc1.spotify.com
Throughput for above transfer is only: 17489 Bps ~ 136.6328125 Kbps !!!
Latency to the Spotify Media server above as below. - 185 ms
Start: Thu Feb 6 11:49:37 2014 HOST: ubuntu Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- maxisgateway.lan 0.0% 50 0.6 0.6 0.5 1.1 0.0 2.|-- 10.100.0.1 0.0% 50 6.4 4.8 2.2 18.1 2.8 3.|-- 58.71.241.78 0.0% 50 3.1 3.5 2.3 7.1 0.5 4.|-- 58.71.241.57 0.0% 50 3.8 4.9 3.1 12.3 1.6 5.|-- 58.71.241.30 0.0% 50 3.2 3.1 2.3 4.2 0.1 6.|-- 202.151.241.178 0.0% 50 3.8 7.3 2.0 196.3 27.7 7.|-- xe-0-1-0.r02.kslrml01.my. 0.0% 50 44.0 45.5 43.8 74.6 4.7 8.|-- as-2.r21.sngpsi02.sg.bb.g 0.0% 50 48.4 49.5 44.8 78.0 8.1 9.|-- ae-3.r20.sngpsi05.sg.bb.g 0.0% 50 59.6 59.7 58.5 64.3 0.9 10.|-- ae-3.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.g 0.0% 50 185.6 186.1 184.4 191.2 1.0 11.|-- ae-1.r06.snjsca04.us.bb.g 0.0% 50 186.8 186.5 185.6 190.8 0.7 12.|-- ae-2.r01.mlpsca01.us.bb.g 0.0% 50 186.3 186.7 185.8 189.1 0.5 13.|-- ae-0.ua.mlpsca01.us.bb.gi 0.0% 50 186.7 186.7 185.4 194.9 1.2 14.|-- vl-20.acc-sjc1-r707-1.sjc 4.0% 50 186.4 187.0 185.7 197.4 1.6 15.|-- sjc1-accesspoint-a21.sjc1 2.0% 50 185.9 185.8 184.7 187.0 0.2
Listening to Spotify Music using Desktop Apps with 14.192.X.X IP address (NO PROBLEM)
8301 packets seen, 8263 TCP packets traced elapsed wallclock time: 0:00:00.013730, 604588 pkts/sec analyzed trace file elapsed time: 0:01:09.604773 TCP connection info: 1: 194.68.28.67:4070 - 192.168.1.85:37720 (a2b) 936> 765< 2: 192.168.1.85:41395 - 192.168.1.254:80 (c2d) 2> 2< 3: 192.168.1.85:54342 - 31.13.79.96:443 (e2f) 15> 14< (complete) (reset) 4: 192.168.1.85:36285 - 23.41.69.163:80 (g2h) 9> 5< 5: 192.168.1.85:57017 - 192.168.1.254:8000 (i2j) 10> 8< 6: 192.168.1.85:57018 - 192.168.1.254:8000 (k2l) 7> 6< (complete) 7: 220.137.246.234:12100 - 192.168.1.85:42632 (m2n) 1> 0< (reset) (unidirectional) 8: 192.168.1.254:8000 - 192.168.1.85:57022 (o2p) 12> 11< 9: 192.168.1.85:48306 - 175.45.57.162:51987 (q2r) 1111> 2059< 10: 192.168.1.85:60135 - 110.20.225.145:37619 (s2t) 4> 0< (unidirectional) 11: 192.168.1.85:48618 - 121.72.144.69:27097 (u2v) 203> 277< 12: 192.168.1.85:45418 - 192.168.1.253:41952 (w2x) 7> 7< (complete) 13: 192.168.1.85:57027 - 192.168.1.254:8000 (y2z) 33> 32< (complete) 14: 192.168.1.85:49498 - 58.115.24.72:60710 (aa2ab) 88> 124< 15: 192.168.1.85:55470 - 120.146.130.39:13182 (ac2ad) 4> 0< (unidirectional) 16: 192.168.1.85:48897 - 115.132.78.127:17988 (ae2af) 960> 1022< 17: 192.168.1.85:54858 - 116.48.1.162:62086 (ag2ah) 3> 0< (unidirectional) 18: 192.168.1.85:53077 - 27.252.222.174:15652 (ai2aj) 1> 1< (reset) 19: 192.168.1.85:57261 - 115.66.62.8:27134 (ak2al) 157> 270< 20: 192.168.1.85:51323 - 150.101.19.188:15760 (am2an) 4> 0< (unidirectional) 21: 192.168.1.85:54318 - 203.174.172.234:48955 (ao2ap) 1> 1< (reset) 22: 192.168.1.85:46889 - 203.173.216.72:36037 (aq2ar) 41> 46< 23: 192.168.1.85:48577 - 120.148.131.197:56343 (as2at) 4> 0< (unidirectional)
TCP port used to transfer Spotify Media is TCP connection number 1, 9 (2 streaming thread)
1: 194.68.28.67:4070 - 192.168.1.85:37720 (a2b) 936> 765<
Throughput: 510.79687 Kbps
9: 192.168.1.85:48306 - 175.45.57.162:51987 (q2r) 1111> 2059<
Throughput: > 1 Mbps !!!
Observation
Based on findings above, looks like if I'm using 14.192.X.X line, the CDN for Spotify media is better performances (latency, bandwitdh etc) compare with 121.121.X.X.
Normally, the Content Server (Spotify) will decide which CDN should handle request from users according to their IP address and it'll allocated the nearest CDN to the user.
Can I know, how can I improve my Sportify service quality. Please advice. We've few other customers complaining the same issue. Thanks
Which country are you in exactly (Malysia?)? If you geo-locate your IP addresses using http://whatismyipaddress.com/ can you just confirm they both go to the same country?
Looking at the two connections, it appears the first AP is in the UK and the second is in Sweden (although the second one appears to have several other p2p Spotify connections open looking at the port numbers).
Peter
Spotify Community Mentor and Troubleshooter
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Dear Peter,
Thanks for your prompt feedback. Both IP is belong to Maxis ISP which located in Malaysia. May I know, do Spotify use CDN services such as CloudFront or Akamai. How to know which port was used for Spotify P2P ? Do you have the port range ?
I don't have the range, but 4070 is the main one Spotify will always stream over, and in all honesty it should work without the p2p part.
I would suggest you also open a case with the Spotify support team directly using the online contact form so they can dig into this a little further for you too.
If you get an automated email reply back directing you to the community or help pages, you need to reply directly to that email (even if its from no-reply) and one of the customer services agents will get back to you as soon as possible.
Peter
Spotify Community Mentor and Troubleshooter
Spotify Last.FM Twitter LinkedIn Meet Peter Rock Star Jam 2014
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Dear Peter,
Thanks for your assistance. Spotify buffering issue has resolved. The cause for this issue was due to international link quality between
Malaysia - US and our ISP has recrifed the problem. No more slow search and buffering issue. Thanks !
Peter
Spotify Community Mentor and Troubleshooter
Spotify Last.FM Twitter LinkedIn Meet Peter Rock Star Jam 2014
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