New Your Library test (iOS & Android)

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Re: New Your Library test (iOS & Android)

knwr
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Also, to provide more input:

 

I agree with a previous poster. When you're included in a random test you should probably get an e-mail or notification pointing to this community section which describes the test. I didn't know about it until a support tech informed me when I contacted about the reverted UI. This would likely help to get feedback and reduce negative experiences from those who would otherwise be left confused.

Re: New Your Library test (iOS & Android)

MattSuda
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@Nikster @Thisiscreature @jamator and other podcast users

 

How do I see the latest podcast episodes?

I previously mentioned that there is a new pinned section called "New Episodes" that shows you the latest updates.  

 

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In addition to this new pinned "New Episodes" list, if you tap on the "Podcasts & Shows" filter at the top, the same "New Episodes" list will show there too, and another list called "Your Episodes" will show there at the top as well.

 

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In the "Your Episodes" list,  it will show you all of the individual podcast episodes you saved and downloaded. When you download a podcast it is automatically saved as well.

 

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There is a filter at the top of the "Your Episodes" list you can tap on to filter and see only podcast episodes that have been downloaded. From the main library view you can also tap on "Podcasts & Shows" filter and combine it with the "downloaded" filter.

 

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You can also pin the "Your Episodes" list to the main library view under the "New Episodes" list if you also want to be able to access "Your Episodes" from the main library view without having to filter to "Podcasts and Shows" first. Just long press and hold on the "Your Episodes" list or swipe right on it in the iOS app, and select the "pin playlist option". You have the ability to pin up to 4 items to the main Your Library list. I will have another post here in the thread soon that goes over pinning items to the main Your Library list. Currently there is a limit of up to 4 pins and you can pin everything from playlists, playlist folders, podcasts, albums, artists, etc.

 

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Re: [Your Library] New library design - Sort per Download Date

ssandie1
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Still a terrible UI for podcast users. I will bang the drum on this all day. If this becomes an actual release I'll cancel my sub asap.

Re: New Your Library test (iOS & Android)

MattSuda
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These are the latest updates to the Your Library test. Make sure your app is up to date with the latest version. iOS and Android updates are not always released at the same time so there may be a short delay.

 

March 25, 2021 (app version 8.6.12):

 

📌 Pinned items in Your Library

 

If you tap and hold on the screen on any item in the Your Library list or swipe right on it, an option will show up allowing you to pin it and it will stay at the top of the Your Library list. You can pin anything in Your Library such as playlists, playlist folders, artists, albums, podcasts, etc. You can only have 4 pinned items. You can unpin "New Episodes" to free up a pin and still get to that using the "Podcasts & Shows" filter and it'll still be there at the top. Same with "Liked Songs", you can unpin it and still get back to it at the top of the "Playlists" filter. You can also pin the "Your Episodes" list to the main library view in addition to the "New Episodes" list if you also want to be able to access "Your Episodes" from the main library view without having to filter to "Podcasts & Shows" first.


To pin more playlists when you run out of the 4 item pins, you can make a playlist folder in the desktop app or web player and then move multiple playlists inside it and then pin the folder in the mobile app. Then tap on the folder at the top and there you go, easier access to all the playlists in that folder and that can be your 4th pin. However you can't pin a specific playlist if it is in a folder, so you have to pin the folder instead.

 

To easily find the item you want to pin, the best way is to use the universal search. At the top of Your Library, tap on the search icon and search for the item you want to pin. The universal search searches your entire library for playlists, playlist folders, artists, albums, podcasts, etc and also shows you your recent searches.

 

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Re: New Your Library test (iOS & Android)

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Feedback:

After using the new mobile Your Library through all of the changes for the past several months I wanted to post my own personal feedback. My main feedback is that the new library needs to be better optimized for one handed use (especially on bigger phones), more customization is needed, and the artist follow system / artists section of Your Library needs to be fixed.

 

Note: I am not a Spotify employee, I am a user that is part of Spotify's Star Program. I have been helping users in this thread with this test and this is just my personal feedback.

 

Things I don't like about the new library and suggestions I have to improve them:

 

  • The whole concept of just one long list and then filtering it based on content is slower especially having to wait for the annoying animation to finish. When I am done filtering I have to tap the X and then tap on another filter and it just feels slow and annoying compared to the old way of swiping back and forth between sections or just tapping between them. On a big phone like the iPhone 12 Pro Max, one handed use is no longer easy since you can no longer swipe between the sections. You have to use 2 hands to hold the phone and reach to the very top of the phone to tap on the filters. My suggestion is to leave all of the filters on display at the top when one is activated. The activated one remains green, but the other filters remain shown at the top, and instead of tapping an X and waiting for a slow animation and then having to tap on another filter, only one tap will be required to switch filters. For example: You open up the Spotify app and see all of the filters at the top, you tap on playlists and it switches the view and the playlists filter turns green, you then want to switch the filter you will see the other filters at the top (not colored in green) you then tap on albums, and it switches to albums and then the filter turns green to show that it has been activated. This would be much faster than having to X out of a filter first, wait, and then tap on another one. Another suggestion I have for one handed use is to show the filters at the bottom of the Your Library view, above the now playing bar, instead of at the top. That way one handed use on bigger phones is much easier and then you wouldn't need to bring the swipe left and right to change filters gestures back. If you don't move the filters to the bottom of the view, then at least allow us to swipe left and right to switch between the filters like in the old library view. Swiping left and right would then only switch between the main filters (you would still need to reach to the top and select "Downloaded" fitler if that's the one you want, to avoid conflicts when swiping) I feel like you did not take one handed use when you're quickly on the go (especially with bigger phones) into consideration when designing this new library. The old library took this into consideration with the ability to swipe left and right between each view.

 

  • "Podcasts & Shows" is a long name... and makes it so the "Downloaded" filter is more hidden off screen and requires scrolling through the filters to get to it. Why not just leave it how it used to be named as "Podcasts"

 

  • I don't like how the main view of library, albums, artists, and podcasts share the same saved sort order. The only filter that allows you to set a separate saved sort order is the "playlists" filter. For example, I want the main view to be recently played, playlists to be custom order, artists to be recently added, albums to be recently added, and a different order for podcasts if I chose so, etc. Allow us to save sort order per filter and not share the same sort order setting between all of the filters.

 

  • I would like the ability to set a default filter view so that the filter of my choosing is automatically showing / activated on app startup. I generally only want to see my playlists on app launch like how it was in the old library design. The option to set the playlists filter to be the default view, or any of the other filters to be the default view would be nice. This is also why my suggestion of leaving all of the filters in view and just showing the active filter as green as mentioned above should happen. If a default filter view is not selected by the user then the current unfiltered unified view is shown.

 

  • The artists section of my library has been broken ever since the 2019 mobile Your Library redesign and it is still broken with the new Your Library design here in 2021. The problem is that I follow more than 1,000 artists (2,300) and lots of the artists I follow don't show up in the artists section even though in the desktop and web player the artist page shows I am following them. The mobile artist page shows that I am NOT following them. It's really inconsistent across platforms. I was told by a product manager that this was being looked into exactly 1 year ago and I have not seen any progress on this following artists / artists section of Your Library issue. In fact this problem is now even worse with the new desktop app design showing my following count as "1,000" when it is around "2,300". Old desktop app design properly showed my following count. The web player has the wrong following count as well, but the web player is the only Spotify app that will show me all of my artists when I scroll through the artists section of my library. Weird since the desktop app and web player share the same underlying infrastructure. This inconsistency for the artist following system and the artist section of Your Library is terrible and I have no idea why nobody at Spotify can fix this issue that has been happening for 2 years now and I am not the only user with this issue. I even had this issue on the test account customer support had me use to test at one point and that account was following more than 2,000 artists too. I have an entire thread dedicated to this issue and you can read it right here

 

Things I like about the new library and suggestions I have to improve them:

 

  • The ability to get to my profile and settings faster with the new profile icon. Although I don't think most users will know to tap on their profile pic to get to settings. It will be an adjustment.

 

  • Option to have GRID view instead of only having the list view. I noticed that playlist folders don't have a grid view. That would be nice to add.

 

  • A unified search button so I don't have to go to a specific section of my library to search for something, although the option to search specific sections would be nice like the old library view so it's not so cluttered when looking for something specific in the big list of results. This is the perfect opportunity to put filters at the top of the library search results that match the filters in the main library view: Playlists, albums, artists, podcasts, etc and then easily be able to filter the search more specifically if I want to.

 

  • Ability to pin items. I noticed that all of the filters share the same pinned items. It would be nice to have a set of pinned items for the main library view, and then separate additional sets of pinned items once you activate each filter. Like if I fitler to albums, allow me to set 4 specific albums to show at the top. Same with artists, playlists, and podcasts. The flow for this would be when you pin an item, a popup would ask you to choose which filter you want to pin the item to: main view, playlists, artists, albums, podcasts, etc. Also in the main library view it would be nice to increase the maximum limit of pinned items from 4 to 5 or make the Liked Songs playlist pin not count towards the 4 limit.

 

General suggestions:

 

  • Add the ability to create playlist folders in the mobile app. We can pin them, but they can only be created in the desktop app and web player right now.
  • Also please add the ability to add playlists to playlists folders in the mobile app
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Re: New Your Library test (iOS & Android)

dbhb13
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I am one of the "lucky" beta testers and I think the old ui with splitting of music and podcast was better. Another issue is that if I download an episode of a podcast without following, it does not show up in my downloads list. 

 

Can we please be allowed to opt of of these in the future?

Re: New Your Library test (iOS & Android)

LukeDS
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Please go back to the old layout of 'your library'. It is simple and easy to use. The new one is quite **bleep**ing annoying you know

Re: New Your Library test (iOS & Android)

Inudesu
Music Fan

Thanks for the information. Downloaded episodes actually being available and pinning various things do seem to be improvements over not having those options.

But given the choice, I'd still take the current library over this bubble menu option. I just don't see that any of the supposed advantages (I guess some easier sorting?) are worth the trade off. There are lots of Spotify users and I assume many ways of using Spotify. So maybe someone would want a library starting place that combines playlists and podcasts, but it's hard to imagine why. And so right from the beginning that's extra clicks for almost everyone to get somewhere usable. 

And even if you allow a user to set their default"your library" starting place, you've still got to close that one and start over to get to your podcasts from playlists or vice versa. And to what end? How is that better than what is there now? You could leave the menu options as suggested above - which would be better for sure, but why change just to end up where you started (with just different shaped options and maybe some easier sorting)?

I do think a "classic view" option, if possible might be a good way to go (but of course I have no idea about the tech requirements for supporting both functionalities). I haven't seen anything about the interface being tested that would remotely make me choose it over the existing one, but maybe someone would. 

I guess I'm not totally sure what the goal is here. Do people complain a lot about not being able to change how playlists are sorted? I could see where that could be improved certainly. And I guess the grid view might be nice in some cases. Is there some other advantage here that I'm not seeing?

 

Re: [Your Library] New library design - Sort per Download Date

Notyourmama
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Same here. It's a nightmare. Why would you want a combined database for Podcast and music? That makes you filter five times and still not being able to see new episodes at a glance? And not being able to sort them for the newest added? You lose the overview completely. Better get this fixed.

[iOS][Playlists] March 2021 Update

e4rlys
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My idea? The new update is terrible. I liked how I could have my own custom order on my playlists and liked playlists. now I can only sort it by Alphabetical, Recently Played, Creator name, and Recently Added. 

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