Shuffle play is not random

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Re: Shuffle play is not random

ctreitzell
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My first post to this thread was Jan 2015!

 

I listened to A LOT of Spotify last year....something like 37, 000 hrs as we were restoring a house that took about 6 months; with Spotify as the music for most of the project.

 

The only way I found to hear every song in a playlist with hundreds or thousands of songs/tracks is to NOT USE SHUFFLE.

 

Read back a few pages on this thread and you will find Spotify SHUFFLE essentially holds a "buffer" of 100 playlist entries. If you use SHUFFLE, you will get that buffer of 100 songs; you will continually hear the artists and tracks you manually queue up most frequently. The algorithm is not correct in its assessment that "if a listener listened to "X" then said listener wants to hear "X" every 3 tracks played".

 

The best way I found to hear all the songs/tracks in a playlist is by filtering by Title. You will get repeats when the song titles are the same; different versions or mixes of the same titled song/track....BUT you will hear evrything. Same if you filter to ALBUM...but then you don't get that "radio" kind of "randomness" of different artists.

 

I doubt Spotify will ever make their SHUFFLE algo work as many of us suppose it should.

Re: Shuffle play is not random

stenetts
Music Fan
With you there, the playlist I usually make are only around 100 songs, so I
generally hear them all. The thing I hate is that the playlist will come
from 6 or 7 albums. If I hit shuffle, it basically plays the whole of one
album, although usually mixed a bit, then it will move on to the next one
and do the same thing. When I shuffle, like with iTunes, I would like songs
to play randomly, if I wanted the whole album played together I could just
shuffle the album, there is no point shuffling a playlist of various albums
if it is still going to play each album individually. Sorting by title
helps but can be annoying when you have the normal version of a song plus a
live version and a couple of mixes because then you get the same song 4
times in a row. After 4 years of people complaining I don't expect anything
to change either.

Re: Shuffle play is not random

elsid
Music Fan
Right. Select a particular song from your playlist and then start playing. Next time you want to shuffle that same playlist, select a different song to start. Once started this way, Spotify will shuffle through even very long playlists with no problem. I don’t understand why Spotify doesn’t inform people about this simple solution since it is problem for many, many people.

Re: Shuffle play is not random

ledrobster
Casual Listener
This doesn't work.  At most it will cycle through a different subset of
99 songs (although in some cases not even that).  This isn't a guess on
my part.  Use the "next" button and click a bunch of times and you will
actually see the precise same pattern of songs repeated, even though the
hundreds of other songs in the list haven't been played yet.  The "start
with a different song and the problem is fixed" idea probably persists
because of the initial novelty of hearing a different 99 songs than
usual.  It will not actually cycle through the whole list.

Re: Shuffle play is not random

elsid
Music Fan
OK. Technically, you are right. However, the method I described DOES shuffle a typical music playlist for 6 or 7 hours, after which you just pick a so-far unplayed song and start playing for another 5 orb 7 hours. That satisfies me anyway.

Re: Shuffle play is not random

Dvabau
Music Fan
Actually no, it doesn’t work While it will indeed shuffle a new part of the deck, it will not shuffle the whole deck. Thus this thread

Re: Shuffle play is not random

Parit
Newbie

It's now 2019...and still doesn't work!!!

Re: Shuffle play is not random

stenetts
Music Fan
Don't think they are ever going to bother changing it. Cant be that hard as
others can manage to do it.

Re: Shuffle play is not random

Grits
Newbie

I have been lurking on this form for a while, and I have experienced all the same things with Spotify playlists seeming to stick to the same bunch of songs,  and songs repeating too often. I've recently found a semi-solution though, and I would like to verify if it works for everyone. When I navigate through Android Auto in my car to Spotify, select Library then select songs and play that way, it seems I actually do get a brand new list of songs every time, with deep tracks from my library.  If I select the shuffle and repeat icons from the Spotify Android Auto interface, it appears I'm good to go with a brand new shuffled Spotify playlist.

 

Seems to work for me, and would love to hear if others experience the same.  You can just load Android Auto on your phone, you don't have to use it from your car dash.  Let me know if I'm full of it or not.

 

Re: Shuffle play is not random

Dvabau
Music Fan
I have been using AA for a while but I haven’t noticed any difference in behavior...but I sure wish it were true.
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