Spotify and alexa echo. song stop and start again

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SAPReApEr
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Changing back to the included amazon usb power adapter seemed to help mine A+!!!

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SAPReApEr
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nevermind, even worse again now :(

Re: Spotify and alexa echo. song stop and start again

SAPReApEr
Regular

Actually it has to do with interference from something. At the same time my Turtle Beach ps4 headset started crapping too

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lockwoodg
Music Fan

I’m guessing your Echo has a different issue than what this thread is referring to. Try moving both devices to another room but I doubt there is any correlation between the two acting up. How electronic devices handle interference and more importantly what interference they put into an environment is highly regulated and for a basic consumer device. It isn’t like you don’t understand why you can’t get 10G over Cat5 which you stapled to a 240V dryer cord. There isn’t much that is going to happen with interference to a speaker some LEDs and a small computer (in layman’s terms).

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SAPReApEr
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Well I am pretty sure it has to do with Bluetooth interference..Headset is BT and so is my ECHO Dot speaker.  It cleared up again before I could disconnect the BT spkr and just use the internal DOT speaker or I will wire it direct if I happen to find a cable.. .. Just like on my first floor, my microwave destorys BT reception. At the same time my Logitech wireless mouse was glitchy too LOL

I do in fact know that home routers are so **bleep** inconsistent. I am on my 3rd since my longtime DLINK DGL4100 died :( after 10 years)

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SAPReApEr
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And yes it could be a different issue, but a search brought me here so that is why i am here ;-)

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Re: Spotify and alexa echo. song stop and start again

lockwoodg
Music Fan

The Cat5 thing was a hypothetical example where a lot of interference would occur. Also Cat5 isn’t certified for 10G only 10/100BASE-T. 

 

Not sure where Cat5 pertains to the unreliability of home routers but... I am not sure why you would need a dedicated router in a home network. Was this before wireless was common? I don’t see it being useful in a home environment.

 

Could you elaborate?

Re: Spotify and alexa echo. song stop and start again

JeffCT
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To begin with, for the sake of full disclosure, I'm a network engineer for a very large communications company, so I do speak with some authority here.

I'm starting to believe that the issue has to do with the way the streaming negotiation between Echo and Spotify is implemented.  I don't think it is an intentional crippling on Amazon's part - it seems to have more to do with the way the stream is negotiated and maintained.

 

As to issues like the AC Adapter or Ethernet cable type, etc., these are not likely causes.  As to one of the comments about Category 5 cable only being capable of 10/100, when we speak of Category 5 what we are talking about today is almost always Category 5e.  The original Category 5 was deprecated over 15 years ago.  Category 5e cable is certified for gigabit speed up to 100m under the IEEE 802.3ab standards.

 

All of that being said, streaming audio doesn't require anywhere near these speeds, and it is unlikley that most people even have 100mb/s internet in their homes today.  What I am experiencing is a breakdown in negotiation between Echo and Spotify, whether that is initiated by packet loss or some defficiency in the way the API is implemented I don't know for sure.

 

But it sure is annoying.

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SAPReApEr
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I understand Network connectivity and I did not mention cat5 at all. Though in a pinch I have run 1Gb over Cat5 easy, and also Cat3 (short run).... And sure you can have dropped packets and even interference issues but it can and will work.

     I was on the topic of network latency which was discussed previously with people pointing fingers to the Wireless (Wi-Fi) connectivity and needing to move closer to the unit (WAP or Router).  Well that wireless connectivity has to still be controlled by a home network router especially when most home users have it built in to the router that shares their (WAN) Modem connection. The router still does all the natting and firewall/QoS possibly. Whether it be a wired router connected to WAP(s) it all comes back to the router no matter what the connection in order to get to the big 'ol WWW (Layer3). So I threw it in there that I had home router issues and it took me buying/returning/swapping of "Home Routers" before I was able to get a rather stable unit. (I had streaming issues)  We all know Spotify reached out to the Spotify servers out in the WWW  :)

My point being there are so many things that could effect these connection issues but yes I would also assume that the OP wasn't really having "Streaming" issues.

 (my reply was to lockwoodg)

Anyway, sorry for going a bit off topic

Re: Spotify and alexa echo. song stop and start again

lockwoodg
Music Fan

Not you still don't get it... The thing about Cat5 has nothing to do with Spotify, you, me, my knowledge, your knowledge, Amazon Echo units, data transmission rates capable with Cat5, whether Cat5 is Cat5 or Cat5e, or anything else...at all...that should concern you...zip...zada...zero. Phew!

 

1) The thing about Cat5 was a situation where interference would be expected to have an effect on performance to offer juxtaposition to your implementation of an Echo Dot in an assumed residential home where the EM interference would likely be so minimal it would not have any effect on the electronics within said household.

 

2) I was not attempting to question your understanding of the basic fundamentals of a network. I was simply wondering the function of a wired only router in your home network since you most likely had wireless connectivity where a unified AP(the "W" is redundant)/Router/Switch would be common. I still do not understand why you have/had that godawful TP-Link router, but I really don't care

 

3) Yes I agree with you that it most likely isn't an issue with connectivity.

 

4) Why would you ever want to run gigabit over Cat3? Or what would put you in that situation?

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