Multiple users in household

[user-removed]

Hi there,

As an avid music listener, IT expert, audiophile and domotica specialist I have arranged all media consumption within the household (wife, kids) to come through a centralized media hub. Which means that I have multiple devices in the house using all kinds of media, including Spotify streaming.

Normally this would not have been an issue, but my wife is as much a music lover as I am, and our kids are starting to follow suit. You can imagine that only being able to stream Spotify to one single device can be a nuisance when more people are at home. The simultaneous use is not intensive enough to warrant 4 or 5 premium accounts, so I would like to ask you to come up with either a family volume plan or a more expensive up-to-5 simultaneous streams Family-Premium subscription ..

Happy to discuss,

Regards,

WizNL

[user-removed]

Hey,

I read from Internet news page that Spotify is working at some point with "Family plans".

It's about time when we all get Official news for this.

[mjr0483]

Giving Spotify a trial run and I am happy and disappointed at the same time.

Are you telling me my wife can't be  home listening to music while I am sitting at work and be listening?

Yikes. Fail...

[licenced]

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@mjr0483 wrote:

Are you telling me my wife can't be  home listening to music while I am sitting at work and be listening?

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You are paying for a personal account, so technically yes. However you can both be listening if one of you is listening to an offline playlist, with the app in offline mode.

Family plans are apparently coming - this is one of the more popular threads in the Ideas forum:

http://community.spotify.com/t5/Spotify-Ideas/Discount-Family-Subscriptions/idi-p/2275 - 150 kudos

http://community.spotify.com/t5/Spotify-Ideas/Family-Pack/idi-p/24219 - 18 kudos

[Morten_Bøtker]

Untill this has been solved, Spotify is not the Solution for me and my family.....

[jaceresch]

i agree, i won't be forking out the cash for premium till it's affordable for the entire household to be using simulatanously

[Stupify]

This is quite unlikely to come, really. For Spotify, Facebook is more important than their users and a family plan would not fit their mandatory Facebook requirement.

[user-removed]

I actually disagree, since Spotify already announced publicly that they would come up with family plans.

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@Stupify wrote:

This is quite unlikely to come, really. For Spotify, Facebook is more important than their users and a family plan would not fit their mandatory Facebook requirement.

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[user-removed]

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@jaceresch wrote:

i agree, i won't be forking out the cash for premium till it's affordable for the entire household to be using simulatanously

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Hmmm, any family plan that Spotfy is going to come out with will most likely be aimed at an average household of say 4-5 users. As a result a premium family plan will at least cost somewhere between 20-25 euros a month. That is why investing in two premium accounts right now, and wait until the family plans come available will alleviate the issue somewhat and one would probably still be paying less than a future family plan.

The rationale being that "buy 2, get 3" sounds a lot more realistic than "buy 2 get 5". ... If Spotify ends up being "Buy 2 get 4" for identified / proven family members, and any on top of that with 50% discount I would be perfectly ok with that. 

I alleviated my problem by investing in that second account. Now it's your turn Spotify!!

[Stupify]

I can only think of two different solutions the Spotify team could do, and both would be shot down by Facebook.

1. All household members will have their own Facebook login, but there's only one discounted payment that gives premium to all accounts. The reason this  wouldn't work is because Facebook requires its members to be at least 13 years of age. If this were aimed at families, kids under 13 wouldn't be able to use it and would make a pretty bad family service.

2. All household members use one account that has been given privileges to stream in multiple locations at once. This wouldn't work because whose Facebook account is going to be the login? What's preventing other family members from logging the poor fellow's personal Facebook instead of Spotify? And the feature that posts every song you listen to on Facebook is going to be broken with all these people listening to different kinds of songs.

[licenced]

Aye I think the announcement (although I don't remember it being that formal - just a 'we're thinking about it') was before the Facebook tie in.

Now that we have the FB elephant in the room how can they implement a family plan? Any such plan would most likely be along the lines of 'buy two for a x% discount' - but not a real family plan due to the Facebook constraint on user age meaning that children can't have fb accounts and, by extension spotify accounts, no matter who's paying

[user-removed]

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@licenced wrote:
Aye I think the announcement (although I don't remember it being that formal - just a 'we're thinking about it') was before the Facebook tie in.

Now that we have the FB elephant in the room how can they implement a family plan? Any such plan would most likely be along the lines of 'buy two for a x% discount' - but not a real family plan due to the Facebook constraint on user age meaning that children can't have fb accounts and, by extension spotify accounts, no matter who's paying

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I agree that the age restriction bit is impractical, but the family relations part could perhaps be sorted with the family relations functionality in Facebook.

Or, the other alternative, one single account that will be allowed a maximum of 4 or 5 simultaneous streams before giving the message "your spotify account already is in use elsewhere".

The Facebook marriage between Sportify and Facebook indeeds make it a bit more complex to sort. For the time being however, two individual accounts make the wait bearable. 

[alanski]

So i check back a year later for the family solution and there isnt one. haha

I dont think Spotify have done the maths. KIds love music and they are trying to get students on board with current ad campaign....have they added up the market for families versus students? Are the kicbacks from Facebook that great they can stay with the 20-35yr olds and sod everyone else?

I left spotify as soon as Facebook only was required. Made me furious but Spotify dont care about the loss of family service users or people who dont want to have/use a facebook account so they can profile advertising. Being a good little consumer and renting my brain out for data mining/advertising aint gonna happen.

So what the hell am i doing here?

Having a party and building a playlist of course then going to Groove shark 🙂

[RubenDavid]

Yea - I have 5 people total in my household and all of us want some sort of solution. I'm glad I only paid for a month the family plan is not here and I'm not about to pay $50.00 a month when Pandora is also an option.

[Stupify]

You no longer need Facebook to use Spotify, you can just make a Spotify account again. I hope this means you can have a shared family account some day.

Netflix is actually encouraging you to share an account with your family with their separate children's section and ability to watch in multiple devices at once. I wish the music industry did the same, even if it cost a bit more for such a special premium account.

[patje1452]

completly true, it's better to use like itunes you can use on 5 pc for spotify maybe they can link to the account but with in the household and make different accounds for (wife,kids,dad).If they make it like this then a lot off people would switch.I would

[TheDragon]

I have a similar problem, but I am not sure why it is a problem at all. If someone could explain why this is I would greatly appreciate it: I don't use spotify premium, I only use the free version, and cannot use my account in another place if my family is using it at home. I don't understand why that is. Basically, the only solution I see is to use two seperate accounts, and use the same playlists, logging in and logging out-- very cumbersome. It's the free version with advertisments, so why is it a problem if it is used in more than one place?

[Peter__]

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@TheDragon wrote:

I have a similar problem, but I am not sure why it is a problem at all. If someone could explain why this is I would greatly appreciate it: I don't use spotify premium, I only use the free version, and cannot use my account in another place if my family is using it at home. I don't understand why that is. Basically, the only solution I see is to use two seperate accounts, and use the same playlists, logging in and logging out-- very cumbersome. It's the free version with advertisments, so why is it a problem if it is used in more than one place?

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Hey! Welcome to the community 🙂 

Its all down to licensing I'm afraid. The Spotify terms say that accounts are for personal usage only, meaning in theory each person should have their own account. Since you can't be in two places at the same time, you can only have one active stream per account at any given time.

That being said, you can make playlists on one account and subscribe to them on another account if you like. Just right click on the playlist name, select Copy Spotify URI, log into the other account, paste that URI into the search box, hit enter, it will load the playlist which you can then "Follow" on that account. 

Peter

[stephnjerry]

Well.., we're done after this free trail. It looks like this issue came up a year ago and Spotify hasn't done nothing about it. It's funny how there is absolutely no respect for the family unit nowadays. Yay for corporate America where we idolize money-hungy sociopaths and put out health and well-being second.

[Joe]

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@stephnjerry wrote:

Well.., we're done after this free trail. It looks like this issue came up a year ago and Spotify hasn't done nothing about it. It's funny how there is absolutely no respect for the family unit nowadays. Yay for corporate America where we idolize money-hungy sociopaths and put out health and well-being second.

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 That's just insane 🙂