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This is more just a plea to the people at spotify:
Why have you put a limit on how many songs we can have in our own music? It just makes no sense!! I've filled up my 10,000 song limit allowance already and now want to save more music but can't.
The quicker this can be changed the better as I am seriously considering cancelling my subscription
Um.. not true. From Deezer's DM to me today when I asked about a limit:
"With regards to limits, our default favourite tracks section / playlist is up to 2,000 by web / PC or Mac app and 1,000 playlists with up to 2,000 track in them and you can favourite up to 2,000 albums and artists to your profile. The only thing is at the moment with the mobile / tablet app this caps it all at 1,000 of each for everything mentioned above, but it is something we are working on for the future."
And Deezer's selection is worse in the US than Spotify US.
Also considering moving to Google Music because of this limit. I would not want to move because I like the Spotify UI is much better.
The UI is definitely better, but that doesn't do it for me. I'd consider the services equal at this point, there are some rare items that I can/cannot find on one or the others, the catalogs are exceptional. But that 10k song limit is a deal breaker. I have single playlists beyond 10k, and yes this is very very possible for all of the folks who think that you could never listen to that much music. Certainly you can, but that's not the point either, I don't listen to 30,000 songs every single week, but when I want to browse a catalog of items that I have compiled as recommendations then I want them in there. I'm also not of the type that likes a single song from an artist, if I find one then I want all of those albums in my catalog so that I may explore the artist in depth. Spotify should seriously reconsider this, but they don't seem very concerned with doing so any time soon. Play music from an interface standpoint has come leaps and bounds, I'm staying with them moving forward.
This might all have been said before (this is a long thread...), but a few thoughts on this and a potential workaround.
My guess is that the "Your music" features in Spotify are built on top of playlists, and that playlists are woven deep into the fabric of Spotify's apps and services. Remember that back in the day, Spotify only had playlists as a way to organise your own music. Playlists (likely) have a 10k song limit, which seems quite reasonable when you are thinking about normal playlists and how people would use them. There are probably lots of parts of Spotify that assume playlists aren't going to be bigger than 10k songs long. That's not just about an arbitrary limit, but also about how to manage memory and render the UI.
I suspect that when you "Save" an album, what actually happens is that the songs from that album (plus a dummy record for the album itself) are saved to a hidden playlist that contains all the songs in the "Your music" collection. The rest of the UI around "Your music" is just a wrapper around filtering and managing that playlist.
This would have been an easy way to implement library features and still allow things like removing tracks you don't like from a saved album, shuffling all of "your music" etc. But moving away from it now would mean either making all playlists support more tracks, or coming up with some other storage mechanism specifically for "Your music", which would be a lot more work and require some kind of conversion on upgrade of the app.
I can see why Spotify doesn't want to touch this, but it's a really disappointing position to be in. It punishes the most loyal, longest-serving users, who may grow a collection of years and then suddenly hit the ceiling (I bet few people know the ceiling exists at all). The argument about this only affecting 1% of users is also a bit disingeneous. People who reach this limit will likely leave Spotify (who needs the kind of stress that comes from having to constantly delete old albums to allow new ones to be saved?), so the number will probably not increase massively.
Anyway, there is a workaround. (Actually there are two, and my workaround is to use Apple Music...). There is no 10k limit to the total number of tracks across all your playlists, and it is still pretty easy to create a new playlist with all the songs in one particular album (an overhang from the days when that was the only way to do it).
Here's what you do:
It turns out that if you now download a playlist for offline listening, the tracks in that playlist are added to the "Your music" songs list automatically, which will eventually creep up to the 10k limit. If this becomes a problem, you can clear it out again in bulk by shift-clicking on items in the "Your music" songs list on desktop and pressing delete/backspace. You'll then need to re-download albums, of course.
Should this be necessary? No. Is it a good solution? Arguably not. Whether you want to do it probably depends on how invested you are in Spotify and how hard it'd be for you to switch to Apple Music/Deezer/Amazon Prime Music/Google Music/Tidal/something else. For my use cases, Apple Music works better because it doesn't have the limit (and because it plays better with music I own that isn't available for streaming), even if I prefer Spotify's UI and community/curated playlists, and miss the Spotify Connect feature. YMMV.
Martin
There should be no limit. I should be able to save all my favorite albums without creating a separate playlist. What a bunch of **bleep**. I really hope Spotify rectifies this soon or it might be a dealbreaker for me.
I just cancelled my 3 years old premium subscription to Spotify because of this stupid limit.
Stupid limit! Why do I have to erase songs from my song list? This is really annoying - especially if you add some new songs when you are already over the limit and the new added songs don't appear the next time when you open the programm.
Spotify! Do something!
This is really annoying, Spotify.
Please, change this. An offline limit is ok, but Why can't I add songs to my catalog??? That's ridiculous!
I'm so annoyed that this 10,000 song limit is still a thing. I use Starred as a way to manage my entire collection of songs that I'm interested in. I've been using a bunch of separate playlists instead, but it's very annoying. I really can't see a good technical reason for the limitation. Ugh.
So, I recommend Spotify chief engineers or whoever is at an important position to evaluate the impact the growing SD storage mobile device can support. For example, there are lots of mobile devices with up to 128GB memory, this will increase the number of users that´ll reach this limit soon...wonder what will happen when thousands of premium users start to reach this f*****g stupid limit in a few years and still no solution available.
I predict a massive migration to a music streaming app without this silly bug. Yes, I understand this as a bug (something not working as desired, for end users), as I´m not able to understand how is it possible for a millionaire income company to ommit and refuse what premium users are asking for years now...any spotify answer or solution to this problem????
Evaluating if apple music is capable of crossfade between songs. Anyone over there that can answer this question?. If so, I will undoubtely go to apple music.
I wanted to migrate TO Spotify after using Google Play and Apple Music for the past year because the playback in Play started breaking up with pops and crackles in the Chrome browser (this was never an issue until very recently), and Apple Music's selection is lacking compared to both Play and Spotify.
Spotify seemed like the perfect solution because the playback is smooth, the selection is excellent, and the UI is superior IMHO. But now that I know they still haven't increased the song limit beyond 10,000, there's no point.
When will they start listening to their users? I mean this thread is 2.5 years old!
Apple Music's limit is 100,000 (at least it was raised to that number about a year ago). 100k is much harder to reach than 10k (stating the obvious).
Google Play has no limit for songs added to your music collection from the streaming library (50,000 limit of songs uploaded from your computer).
It's time for Spotify to get their act together and match - if not exceed - Apple Music's limit, or that mass migration away from Spotify will come sooner than they might expect. They can prevent it and retain their long-time loyal customers... but they'd better act fast.
I just tried importing all my music to Spotify with the intention of switching for good. Now thinking of switching back.
If you are the kind who saves whole albums from each artist you like you can easily reach this limit.
The 99c trial of Spotify Premium, at first, seemed to be the perfect music app as we head towards the third decade of the 21st century, until I tried to import my existing music collection - and was eventually told that there was a limit to how many albums I could, in effect, bookmark?? Sorry, but I'm not paying $15/month for limits. Maybe in the 90s, but not it 2016.
The Spotify desktop app also has a horrid, beta release-like function for importing existing music collections: it doubles and splits songs erratically across albums and makes it a major, frustrating chore to manually go back in and re-organise your collection. But what's the point of me fixing it anyway, spending hours and hours tinkering around when there's a limit of 10,000 songs. Until the limit is raised to something reasonable it looks like I'll just keep using iTunes, which has its own issues, yet because over the years I've spent a lot of time getting my collection organised exactly how I want it, will have to do.
As someone who considers themselves an avid music fan, this whole thing really upsets me. I've always taken a lot of pride in my music collection, and managing it has always been a source of enjoyment for me.
I had about 15,000 songs on my old computer, all tagged up and really clean. I eventually purchased Spotify to use primarily while at work (Google Play stopped backing up and I was too lazy to fix it). Due to Spotify's vast library, really solid playlists, and social aspects, I started to use it a lot more and really began to like it. I've recently switched to a new computer with a 256GB SSD, so I figured I'd give Spotify a shot at really being the place for my music collection. Then I ran into the 10,000 song saving limit.
Are there no obessive music fans in the corporate hierarchy, or engineering team, at Spotify? Given the line of work, I have to believe that there are a lot of people employed by the company that are as into music as some of us. I'm sure they've tried to switch their entire collections to Spotify and run into the same issue. If you're out there, I beg you - please find a solution for those of us just like you.
Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned that they believe playlists and their 10,000 song limits are the reason behind this. This makes total sense. I understand that it would be a big technological change to change the way 'saved,' music is linked to an account, but as a company that big, there has to be a way to satisfy this recognizably small niche of people.
Please help us out! It really irks me to not have my complete music collection somewhere out there, and the gap for me has really started to widen with a few months of Spotify use.
@1248753321 wrote:
Bro, just go with Google play... Spotify is just shooting themselves in the
foot with this limitation. We may be the minority, which is odd, but there
are services that support avid music fans. Unfortunately spotify is
targeting different types of users.
Sadly, Google Play breaks up like crazy now on desktop (a pop or crackle every minute or 2). Never used to be the case when I built a huge library in Play. That's the reason I switched to Spotify... well, tried to switch but not fully because of the 10,000 song limit. I would probably use Amazon Prime if I lived in the US. Everything about Spotify is just about perfect - except for the freakin limit.
In case Spotify is actually reading this, I'd just like to add my voice to the chorus that the song limit is a deal breaker for me. I'm currently trying to decide between Spotify and Google Music, as I've got a 6 month free trial of Google. Spotify seems to me superior in a number of areas, particularly the interface, the social aspect, and the ability to change listening between devices easily. (I do think Google has better music discovery features though). But the song limit is a non-starter for me, there's no way I'd pay for a service that doesn't allow me access to even half of my songs. On the other hand, I'm not even half way to the Google limit, and Google only counts songs you've uploaded yourself to the limit.
In short, if the song limit isn't lifted by the time my Google free trial is up, I'm afraid I'm going to have to go with Google.
Please, every single one of you: when you're at work today, when you meet friends tonight, passionately tell them how bad Spotify is, how you think it is not for music lovers and if anyone is thinking of changing to another service: encourage them! Change to Apple and Google youself. Every single voice is important if you want to change the behavior of companies who act this way.
A company not understanding their own product and how emotional the product is are simply bound to loose to their competition. Legimitaly.
It's ridiculous. What is even worse than disappointing your paying customers, is letting them know: We know a lot of you are disappointed and we don't care! And with every day more people are running into this limit, as they add up to their library not knowing there is a limit.
If your system is not scalable, fix it. If something doesn't work and your paying customers cannot use your service anymore as in BOOKMARK anymore (Jesus!), a company should FIX IT. Be sure to leave a message here as well: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Increase-maximum-songs-allowed-in-quot-Your-Music-quot/i...
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