[All Platforms] Option to have a true shuffle

[jonathanleyerle]

So I’ve been noticing more and more recently that Spotify’s default shuffle feature doesn’t fully shuffle your songs. It does some sort of grouping to try to get similar songs together based off of what I’m sure is dozens of factors. Every time I shuffle a playlist (the one I noticed this with the most is ~100 songs and 6 hours of mostly full albums) it will group the songs mostly or completely together by album/artist, and given the number of times I’ve re-shuffled and checked the order there’s no way it’s just a coincidence. They also generally seem to be in the same order as well. If I hit shuffle play on a playlist it’ll generally put the same artists at the beginning every time.

With larger playlists of albums I am really not a fan of this shuffling method. If I have 6 hours of music on a playlist I will hardly ever have 6 hours to actually listen through the whole thing, but when I do listen to it I would like to hear all of the music on it equally, and not just the artist or two your algorithm likes to shuffle to first.

Anyways, I’m a reasonable man, all I’m asking for is an option to have a true shuffle (take all songs in the list, put them in a random order, and once they’re all played reshuffle them and play them again). Make it premium only if you want. I don’t think you should scrap the current shuffle algorithm because it sucks. Looking at some of the suggestions on here it seems like some people lobbied hard to have it that way. Just add an option for a true shuffle for those of us that don’t care about potentially getting the same song twice in a row.

[Snookumpuss]

It doesn’t sound like a lot to ask for since everyone would use a true shuffle option if it existed. I’m also disappointed in hearing the same tracks over and over on a huge playlist. However I’m stuck with Spotify until something better comes along. 

[t3chfre4k]

An open letter to spotify.

Here's my analogy for you:

This is a place me and other users(because customer implies there's a mutual goal to keep both sides happy) come to rant about your lack of engagement.

As it seems right now you're acting more like you're driving a shady pill-mill drugstore and you're the corrupt doctor next door, handing out prescriptions for a hefty amount of cash with a monthly renewal disclaimer, and you would love if the whole family joined. 

Then you send them off to this unmanned next door pharmacy for the users to pick whatever drugs they feel like. 

They're super stoked about what they're about to indulge themselves in, all kinds of soul mending, heartwarming anxiety and pain relieving medicaments they feel the urge for so bad. 

At the checkout there's this soulless robot pharmacist who scours through every pill bottle you've packed with your favourite blend, in hope of randomly getting a pleasant surprise each time you're about to take a wonderful pill. 

But(because there's always a but) then the pharmacist insists on emptying your bottle into an EZY DOZE tray, in the order of how you picked the pills, or if you like, a "random" order which isn't really random at all. Instead the pharmacist is paid by the drug manufacturers to opt for their pills and stick them together, or repeatedly put them in multiple of the compartments so those pills will be over consumed before the user will get to their oh so much more needed medicine.

This results in a really bad experience, with anger attacks, severe anxiety and paranoia. But there's no turning back once the user is hooked. Many have now invested their whole families into this business model. 

Though there's other options available, but it's pretty much the same thing under a different name. Plus, some users have been coming here since the day the pharmacy first opened, some even before the store officially opened for business(myself since January 2009). They considered this the family pharmacy with a warm family feel. 

That was before the doctor(together with its false flag pharmacy) got hubris, went global and ditched the whole warm and nice family feel.

Instead of learning the names of the customers(back then I consider us customers and we had names) it has now all turned into an elaborate large scale system where every user is assigned an automatically generated ID. 

Focus is now on lean business, away with all the necessities. The aim now is money first, producers second, users third.

At least, nowadays I have a private pharmacist who I hand my EZY DOZE trays to and he sorts them by color, size and shape. Something you will obviously never do. 

Because you're sitting next door handing out prescriptions and couldn't care less what the robot pharmacist is doing since it's the drug producers who controls it now, making it(the robot) put more of their own pills in the trays for their own gain, all encouraged by you(for a small payment from the drug producers of course). You win, the drug producers win and the user is now a user instead of a customer. Drugged blind and sedated by the overwhelming experience of false premises and illusions concocted to make the user think it's ok to not be in control. Let the robot pharmacist decide for you, it knows best because it is programmed with state of the art algorithms. It'll be good for you. Ignorance is bliss.

No-one lived happily ever after.

End of story.

Wake up users!

/sincerely yours, Neo

[t3chfre4k]

And my private pharmacist who reorders my pills is called.

https://www.sortbytune.com

It can sort your music by key and that's why I use it. My listening experience is now feeling like a DJ-session where the next song harmonizes with the previous song.

This is a feature spotify will never come up with and it's the be all end all random mode.

This is the new thing, random isn't cool anymore thanks to spotify.

[jdg072]

Aaaaah... What a relief

[t3chfre4k]

@jdg072

I already tried going the Logitech route. Not my cup of tea since spotify had one advantage, data used through spotify isn't charged on my phone data plan. And I like discovering new music through radio mode and recommendations. Those are things spotify nailed. The rest is just buggy and bad put together.

My wrapped 2022 contained 95 genres, almost 50000 minutes listened and over 5000 different artists. That's hard to accomplish with a Logitech and a private collection of music.

[t3chfre4k]

@jdg072

And I sort my music in ways nor you or spotify can do.

Ps. Hey! If you're a Logitech guy, what the h... Are you doing here? Head over to the Logitech forum! 😆

[rednblu]

Great discussion on a real problem!

Thanks to all

[ModelCitizen]

Logitech Media Server (SlimServer) runs Spotify. That's why we are here.

 

[ModelCitizen]

It works for me @jdg072

Logitech Music Server Library

• Total genres: 71
• Total artists: 3334
• Total albums: 2280
• Total songs: 29928
• Total duration: 98 days 2:03:30
• Last scan: 08/12/2022 12:28:04

[Snookumpuss]

Important caveat is it has to work with car play.