[All Platforms][Your Library] Increase maximum Songs allowed in Your Music

[takingbackbenny]

I feel like the maximum amount of songs allowed in one playlist, and subsequently in "Songs" playlist under the new "Collections" feature, should be more than 10,000.

Quite frankly it should be unlimited. 

We are paying for a service but limited on how many songs we are able to save? That is absurd to me.

I recently started saving all of my albums into "Collections" and got stuck at about 1/4 of the way through - 10,000 songs has been reached and I am no longer able to save any more albums.

PLEASE INCREASE MAX NUMBER OF SONGS IN COLLECTION FEATURE!!!

WHAT IS A COLLECTION IF YOU HAVE TO LIMIT YOUR TASTE???

[wearedevo]

Currently in the process of transferring off Spotify to Google Play Music, as a result of this limit, as well as performance issues.

[barryb20]

@wearedevo I actually came from Google Music (still have it though) as they changed the formating and also the recommendations changed and went down the toilet 😕

I recently signed up for 3 months Apple Music and that is not great either for recommendations. On my Mac I thought hey lets create a genius play list of some dubstep errrrrr wrong answer nothing found lol.

Spotify is the closest IMO for me to what I used to enjoy with my Zune (being in the UK the subscripton was a pain but worth it)

As Spotify are moving some of their infrastructure to Googles services there maybe moves afoot internally to expand / drop some of the limitations, just a thought.

[butchworley]

Any limit while paying for premium is ridiculous. I hit my download limit and am now going to check amazon and Google and if I can download more I will get rid of Spotify

[jumiduss]

@rednblu

So I guess I will start off by answering your question then continueing with follow up information:

I actually have never used the my library feature because I never use anything outside of 1 playlist as of yet. I currently use a master playlist so I can binge everyhing together, and basically solely rely on the shuffle system for the one playlist. 

The problem I'm assuming you're getting at is that songs constantly keep getting repeated under the same play session, and I completely agree that it is unacceptable that a proper randomizing system can't be established considering that the developers seems more concerned about puting out weekly compilations instead of creating / testing their own code to see what happens to their system under stress tests.

so 1, I completely sympathize because I was frustrated with the early shuffle system through que settings, which seem to have gotten better, but I'm sure the algorythem could be reworked extensively. Repeats bother me to no end. (unless I specifically use the feature provided)

Therefore, going off an assumption that the shuffle codes are similar (which would make sense because companies repeat code to save time)
I found that with my petit library of 3,333 tracks (from recent updates), that the trend is for a certain band to be played about 3/10 times in a single playlist. 
For instance, I was listening to my collection and "Band A" who I recently added 4 albums of, was played 6 or 7 times out of 50 skips, but I have earlier music which barely gets touched unless i specifically get the urge to find the BUGGY search button and play my song.

I think A possible pattern in the code would be something like

"the randomizer plays songs at  about 12-15-98-74-97%  (ect ect ect)" so as the library kept expanding, the song grab proceedure would stay the same (and continue in the same order), but the songs theirself would be different on the addition/removal of tracks

and I found if I used the shuffle feature as opposed to starting on a specific song, that A very similiar order, or list of songs would repeat consistantly. It felt like it was constantly grabbing from the same area.

From what you're describing, it seems like the "your music" shuffle system is from an older spotify, because I only encountered somehthing so annoying in spotify from 6-7 months ago////// this could also be mobile app specific because last time I checked there were still no artist/ date filter options for playlists////

So now how I go about doing my music.
A little background info

I'm limited to 3,333 songs because I only have 1 device thats availble, and I only have internet about 10% of the time I actually use spotify, so I would love to shuffle songs and discover based on a broader library, but it's just not possible right now (which is partially what my first rant was about)

From a lot of the information i read, and what also seems to be a more practical option to contain a library of music of music you enjoy, while also being able to discover more music would be to do something as follows

create multiple 9,999 song playlists full of music you want to seach through, and then systematically go through and add songs to a master playlist/ multiple master playlists, (because those eventually would also reach a max amount)

and then if you wanted to listen to music that you have liked then use those master playlists

This is basically an augmented version of the link you provided in your post, but this would seem like the best option to me if you were trying to cultivate an infinately growing library with the current system we are given because you would have benchmarks of songs you've gone through, and then when you don't feel like discovering, you have a somewhat condensed playlist of songs you want.

ideally they would fix the library shuffle system so we wouldn't have such a backwards system where the reality t.v. of music consumers get the top vote. BUT we work with what we got

any more questions or further explanation I'd be glad to oblige.

Regards,

J

[dgm885]

There are several things about the design of Spotify that I don't enjoy since moving from Rdio but the limit on the saved library size is a potential deal-killer. I don't understand the logic. You say that very few people have that many songs saved, but I would also guess that the people who do save lots of song would also be Spotify's biggest advocate. Please remove this cap or I will have to find another service that provides more space for my saved albums, playlists and songs.

[wearedevo]

@barryb20 None of the services are perfect but for now I've cancelled Spotify and switched to Google Play. I don't really need advanced recommendation services - A big part of needing to switch is that I've already got a huge library of music that I know and love, and the Spotify library limitation was obnoxious for this. If/when Spotify drop their limits and improve their infrastructure I may be tempted to switch back. We'll see!

[user-removed]

This is nosense from Spotify. I was unable to do collection just because of this stupid limit. I want to have my HandsUp singles and CD's (not compilations) with me. From where I have music on my main list. I did that. But on another service and how good is that! Their "Your Collection" at GPL Music is even better. I can have tabs like playlists, radio channels, artists, albums, tracks and GENRE. By genre I can check House releases, Dance music releases, Pop releases, all categorised with genre albums... It is amazing!!! Finally I can have my music with less clutter. I feel so good to have my music here with me - today scrolled the lists and found remix bundle I wanted to listen - so good remixes on it!!! This is why i like collection.

About limits I can't say a thing. But at least there is no mention on limits at Google. Now I only added releases from my playlist to number of song 300 - so it is not done yet. But already plenty.

2 playlists

6 radio stations

225 artists

279 albums

2 215 tracks

6 genres (Actually it is label decision, but all my music should be in Dance, which category have the most of releases anyway)

And believe me their web app works so smooth!!!

I think Spotify is bombarded with features we don't need taking the valuable "Running smoothly" away from it. You should simplify, simplify - so you can do better product for making collection and listening music! All else is no needed. Like what Baram Olabama is listening at dinner.

[Asimov]

The reason spotify give for this absurd limitation is simply ridicolous. They responded like we're speaking of a feature request with minor priority, while actually this is a complaint on a LIMITATION of a feature. We're not asking to develop any new feature, we're just asking to remove a limitation that is INSANE and absolutely inadequate for a paying (and not even cheap) user.

Many of us chose spotify to get rid of personal mp3 collections. Almost anyone of us used to browse his mp3 collection looking for some artist or album to listen to, and with spotify we just would like to do exactly so. This limitation is just something dirty that shouldn't be there.

I'm on spotify since a few weeks, and I've just reached this stupid limit: I'm deactivating renew right now and moving on some other service. After all, I'm just in the 1% of users that spotify doesn't need, right?

[gibbyred]

If Spotify is really music for everyone, then what about the music-philes? Without the starring system, saving music is our method of marking the songs we love.

Sorry, but I think this is a severe misstep. Now you're punishing your super-users--the people who arguably use and love your service the most--and forcing them to find work-arounds for your software or at worst an alternative music service. That's not a good thing.

In this new world of digital music, a 10,000 song cap is ludicrous. 5 years from now, we'll look back on this limit and laugh.

[rednblu]

I am interested in why you would say this "absurd limitation is simply ridiculous", @Asimov.

I have a total Spotify collection of over 100,000 tracks-- so there is no "limitation" as far as I can see.

And none of my friends would want to play their music from a "Your Music" collection of over 9.000 tracks-- because Randomization and DeDuplication don't work right for even 3,000 tracks in "Your Music".

I do understand how "seducing" that "Save to Your Music" selection is-- (laughing)

But everybody I know would rather use the "Add to Playlist" function for building their collection of 100,000+ tracks-- because then you can do real RandomizationWithoutRepeats and real DeDuplication to remove automatically the repeat "covers" and those unwanted "... mix" tracks.

How are you expecting to "play" your 100,000 track collection, @Asimov? Your approach here seems to be unique. I am merely curious . . . .

Please, come back and tell us what spectacular players and collections you find out there in the wild, ok?