Please continue supporting iOS/Android streaming SDKs

[florom]

We have been using those SDKs since they became available.

Our particular app (Amazing Slow Downer) lets the user play music more slowly, since a couple of years ago also songs from Spotify. The "ios-streaming-sdk" is a beautifully designed framework that lets an audio developer do practically everything needed.
In our case it makes it possible to access the raw audio samples and this way process the sound and then playback the processed audio using our regular audio playback engine. With your new SDK this is not possible. It might be that the "ios-streaming-sdk" is more difficult to use for an average developer but that also makes it more powerful.

We have many users that uses Spotify. Many users switch from other streaming services such as "Apple Music", Tidal, Amazon Music etc to Spotify just to be able to slow down streaming music in real time.

We believe our app gives Spotify many many new subscribers, so many that it would actually pay off for Spotify to maintain the "ios-streaming-sdk".

We only use "playlist" functions and after fixing a couple of bugs in the "metadata framework" available on github, everything works 100%. Although there are certainly some bugs in the “ios-streaming-sdk”, they are very few and don’t affect our app.

We also have an Android version of our app that uses your Android streaming SDK and it also works very good.

We believe Spotify will loose thousands of users, so many that the minimal cost Spotify need to spend on maintenance will pay off manifold.

Since our app also supports playback and slowing down of streaming Apple Music, many of our users will probably switch from subscribing to Spotify to subscribing to Apple Music.

You write:

"After September 1st, important functionality in the streaming SDKs will stop working."
Exactly what does that mean? What part of the SDK will continue to work?

Please continue supporting iOS/Android streaming SDKs!

Rolf Nilsson
CTO
Roni Music

[leprian]

Please continue as before. This is affecting my learning a lot. What do you loose letting things as they where? Please let us use the combination of both apos. Is is something  good that you ate doing for the community. 

[BrianWrideMusic]

I have been a long time user of both Spotify and The Amazing Slow Downer.  As a working musician both as a performer and a music instructor I have found ASD to be an amazing tool for learning and practising music.  Until recently, Spotify was the superior platform for pairing with ASD as Apple Music doesn't support pitch change which is a very useful feature to me.  The first streaming platform to be compatible with the pitch change feature will be getting my subscription.

[Spotlarsm]

I use Spotify with the Amazing Slow Downer app for education. Not much reason to keep my Spotify subscription without the  ability to use it together with ASD. I hope Spotify will reconsider!

[Russ10]

So how long is everyone going to wait for Spotify to reconsider their decision, before cancelling the subscription?

[Privatedtunkas]

Already done. Got to have an iPhone with apple music to run asd now. It works fine. Don't miss Spotify at all.

[bradmevans]

Changed more than a month ago. What are people waiting for?

[shepdave]

Thanks, bradmevans. I keep reading all these idle threats to leave Spotify Premium, but practically never anybody saying they have left. Come on, people! Dump Spotify already! Vote with your wallets!

[geshultz]

I cancelled about a month ago. Again, we're not even a blip on their radar. They don't care. 

[dtrUdev]

I do miss Spotify + ASD.
After a couple weeks of using Apple Music with ASD, I have concluded that
streaming music no longer works with ASD. I am starting to store the songs
I am working on locally. With ASD + Apple Music:
- The pitch and balance adjustment are greyed out
- the loop feature is there but I find it buggy. I am no longer able to
loop a bar or a few bars perfectly using millisecond resolution scrubbing to
practice over a perfect infinite loop. When it goes back to the start
there is a delay and jitters.
I suspect the best would be for Roni music to find a streaming service that
supports raw stream access (so the can decompress to wav files in memory ).
Have you considered YouTube ?

When it comes to music stored locally, I am also testing the free app Capo
which is supposed to spot the bars automatically as well as identify chords
and isolate instruments. Now the pro version is more expensive than ASD but
given it’s subscription based they will probably continue to develop it to
keep up with the changes in the future.
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[andysotones]

I use Amazing Slow Downer in my university teaching on Popular Music degrees. The ability to find out what song a student band is working upon, then load the track almost instantly in ASD and start deconstructing the music, is invaluable. 

I mainly keep my Spotify subscription for use in my teaching work, so this change is a huge loss, and a step backwards from a technological standpoint. 

Please reconsider your decision, Spotify.

[Sqees]

Just to verify that Spotify will loose customers because of this. I am a paying subscriber of Spotify since well beyond a decade and now you will loose me as a customer. I will take my money elsewhere.

[emelius1]

Please reconsider your decision to stop third party apps to access streaming Spotify content.

I use Amazing Slow Downer frequently to learn and practice songs on my trumpet. The possibility to connect ASD to Spotify is a very important feature. If it disappears I will have to look for an alternative to my Spotify Premium subscription.

Best regards

Gösta Emelius

[Ilike69]

Hello

I was totally shocked when I heard this. Please reimplement this feature! I rely on it every day as a muaician 

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[Dagalm]

Please bring back the opportunity for programs like Amazing Slowdowner to use Spotify!! I have used this extensively to learn how to play music. In fact it’s been one of the main uses of Spotify for me.

[Lemoore]

Give it up. Aint gonna happen.

[andysotones]

I have a mate who is an associate director at Spotify. I appealed to him when I found out about this and his response included this...

"Unfortunately, it’s less to do with a Spotify decision, and more to do with the set of rights that Spotify has from labels and publishers. There are quite a lot of use cases for manipulation of songs (eg DJ mixes, allowing DJ controllers to integrate with Spotify) and it’s a complex area to navigate. There are changes being made in this area, though not sure when / if it will help with this app."

So maybe something in the future will allow ASD to function with Spotify again?

[dagodago]

Thank you Andy, and all of you for the clarification. The only solution we have is to lobby Spotify. Spotify doesn't realize what a service they are doing for the musicians, who are giving back to them in hard currency. Allowing us to slow down a song and pitch it is a job we do almost every day, to pick up a chord grid, analyze a solo, spot a bass line or a drum break. Thanks, spotify engineers, if you hear us, let us work to feed your playlists. Let's continue to write and press. Thanks to all, DAGODAGO 

merci Andy , et vous tous pour ces précisions. LA seule solution que nous avons est de faire pression auprès de Spotify. Spotify ne se rend pas compte du service qu'il rend aux musiciens, qui lui rendent bien en monnaie sonnante et trébuchante. Permette que nous puissions diminuer la vitesse d'un morceau et le pitcher , est un travail que nous faisons presque tout les jours, pour repiquer une grille d'accords , analyser un solo, repérer une ligne de basse ou un break de batterie . Des grâce, ingénieurs du spotify, si vous nous entendez , permettez nous de travailler pour alimenter ainsi vos playlists. Continuons à écrire et faire pression. Merci à toutes et tous, DAGODAGO 

[ojago]

I have used this app in conjunction with Spotify for many years. It encouraged me to become a paid subscriber to Spotify. I am a musician and the connection between the two apps is invaluable to me and many of my colleagues.

[Saksomafoni]

I had to cancel my (and my spouse's) Spotify subscription because of this. Slowing down songs was the main function I used my Premium subscription for. I will consider coming back if Spotify makes the decision to re-enable using Amazing Slow Downer with Spotify.

[muthaship]

Thank you for making this post!

One of my favorite things to do is sit down with my guitar, good headphones, and listen to spotify through the amazing slow downer - so I can learn the songs.  It is an amazingly powerful combination for music education.

When I learned that these two pieces of software worked so well together, I was super stoked and impressed.  often times companies make it hard to do cool stuff like this.  So, when spotify changed things up to exclude the use of ASD, I was feeling super bummed.  Why would spotify do this?  Using ASD with spotify, I'm sure, would not harm the business model.  if anything, it would increase usage because other musicians would like to do the same thing.  PLEASE bring this function back!  I'm annoyed enough about it that I may cancel my family membership and look elsewhere for streaming music support.