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I have a playlist with 10,000 songs and use shuffle to listen to them. What I realized the past weeks is that the same songs are played over and over again - and not because I listen to this playlist 24/7 but because the shuffle mode seems to not pick songs just randomly but has some kind of algorythm behind to pick certain songs all the time again and again. This is quiet annoying because the reason I use shuffle in a playlist with 10,000 is not to listen to the same songs all the time but to have variety!
Hi @Tom7777777,
Thanks for posting in the Spotify Community!
Unfortunately, in large playlists (over 150 songs), the shuffle option prioritizes the songs that Spotify perceives you enjoy the most; this is why you might notice that some songs are repeated while listening on shuffle.
However, there is currently a Live Idea to have an option for a “true” shuffle, which would play all the songs in a playlist in a random order, and once they’re all played, reshuffle them and play them again. If this is something you’re interested in, I’d recommend adding your +VOTE to this idea; the more votes an idea gets, the likelier it is that Spotify will implement it, and you can read more about how feedback on ideas reaches Spotify here.
It will also be useful for you to Subscribe to the idea by clicking the three dots next to its title; that way, you can be sure to be informed of any relevant updates.
Let me know if you have any other questions, and have a good day!
I'm a long-time premuim user but this whole repeating thing is getting on my final nerve. I have spent 4 or so years building this playlist as i play it during my business hours... i have a lot of clients that swear by this playlist and I'd hate to just move on to another app to disappoint the 806 followers especially.
I just played what's supposed to be a 1400 song Playlist and it repeated the same 9 songs in order 10 or more times. I did not listen to the songs, I just skipped to the next, every skip was the same 9 songs over and over... and over.... and over. Not sure why I'm paying for this if it can't even do the simplest shuffle of a playlist without having a brainfart and playing the same songs repeatedly. I've cleared cache, Uninstalled and re-installed, tried playing from different devices galaxy s22 ultra, galaxy s21, galaxy s tab, LG V60 thinq (I primarily play through a roku TV with the spotify app).... nothing helps.
Come on spotify!! This cannot be a difficult issue to resolve! What's the holdup? There's obviously a huge amount of ppl that are having the same problem, so let's call it a day and fix this! Please!?!!!!
Along with the shuffle issue, I have noticed that Spotify also groups my songs into genres even though I never wanted my songs to be grouped. I like a variety and I don't want to hear 10+ songs of one genre played until Spotify plays the next genre. For example, I like to hear Aretha Franklin then Heart, Metallica, The Charlie Daniels Band, etc. Some of us like variety and we don't need Spotify trying to group songs for us. Please just shuffle our playlists when we choose this option!!!
The only thing that's consistently worked for me is to turn on the 'Offline Mode'. It sucks when you want to dig into an album/song/lyrics etc., but oh well.
Why would you event have that song in your playlist?
Hi. I put automix off, and got a random playlist out of my 2000 song playlist.
Try again with automix off! It worked for me. For the very first time i got a unpampered playlist ,🤗
I JUST WANT TO PLAY FROM THE NEWSEST SONG. Why is this feature not present after 15 years on the market?
I don't buy that some phones can only handle 150 songs. My late 90s computer could handle more than that easily, and it had a fraction of the power of a modern smartphone. Maybe some phones would struggle if we are talking about ten of thousands of songs, but 150? Is this a joke?
>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!!! This would be really easy to document via video or a spreadsheet and make viral. This is the most scammy thing ever. I am guessing they have an algorithm built in to cycle songs that have already paid royalties on. I have no clue how they pay royalties, but my guess is they cycle the songs so they don't have to pay a per click type royalty. I am also all for a class action lawsuit to get to the bottom of this. I have dealt with this for years without an answer!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<
100% agree with Tom7777777, this is not "kewl" even with only 1000 songs in my playlist over the last 24 hours it seem to repeat songs I just heard hours earlier. I have been using the "Sorting" of the artist, album and data added to try and work around this but not sure that is working. For now I just hit > forward to move the song on to the next one. I think there is another autoplay similar songs I am gonna turn off now and see if this helps as well. I would think that Spotify would address this on a larger level than letting use complain about it over the years. Any feedback is welcome here from a spotify moderator.
May be a joke, Yes!
But to get the current veryVeryFragile Spotify shuffle to play right and stop those infuriating repeats-- my friends tell me I should think of all of the Spotify misinformation in this discussion thread and similar work areas as OracleAtDelphi riddles-- lots of incredible life-saving wisdom written in riddles that don't make sense unless you put accurate measuring instruments-- such as last.fm-- on what the shuffle actually does as 1) repeats and 2) whether each and every track in a playlist is played before there is any repeat-- but those Spotify oracular clues like "in large playlists (over 150 songs)" and "we'd recommend to split playlists up" can be easily misunderstood-- You have to actually measure what triggers the onset of 1) repeats and 2) Spotify ignoring whole thousands of tracks in a 9000 track playlist that you try to shuffle. Let's take a look.
Here is the falsifiable hypothesis that my friends used to get me the perfect Spotify shuffle for Holiday Music that I ran on my desktop from November 01, 2022 to January 01, 2023 with never an undetected repeat as I ran the standard Spotify desktop shuffle as it shuffled the contents of a folder within which I had sub-folders of 1) Holiday music that repeated but randomly and 2) [pop, classical, blues, country, ... ] of which never a track repeated-- and I had a last.fm report that alerted me whenever the Spotify shuffle broke-- which was sometimes several times a day and sometimes several days without a glitch in the Spotify shuffle.
Falsfiable hypothesis: The Spotify shuffle works perfectly in 1) never a repeat until 2) every track has played-- if you force the Spotify shuffle to always [load the queue] with tracks that you have not played in the last 90 days.
So the way my friends advised me for the above falsifiable hypothesis-- as a ProofOfConcept for a NewIdea to actually fix the SpotifyShuffle-- was to break up the normal 90 day feed to my AllOfSpotify_Queue into small playlists as the Spotify oracle suggested-- remembering Yes!-- that oracle may be joking but apparently speaks incredible wisdom-- because when I implemented this breakup into small playlists in a manner that forced the Spotify shuffle to load the queue always with only tracks that I had not played in the last 90 days-- I got 1) zero repeats and 2) played each and every track in every playlist-- as long as I was successful in keeping both 1) me and 2) the partnership of [Microsoft & Apple & Firefox & Spotify] from doing something that broke irretrievably the current shuffle.
You can witness the current operation of the many small playlists revealed at the top of my public playlists as [ 01_SeriesOfSmallPlaylists, 02_, 03_1, 03_2, etc. ]-- a total of 14 small playlists that range in size from 1800 tracks to 6000 tracks-- So that-- whenever the veryVeryFragile_Spotify shuffle breaks irretrievably-- as detected by the last.fm report for the [most repeated tracks in the date range]-- I just instantiate a whole new Spotify shuffle that loads only the next "small" playlist in the cycle-- no track of which I have played in the last 90 days-- Of course, the [90 days] could be a setting under the SpotifyPlayer Settings-- Right?-- Are you with me? By construction then, the next small playlist in the cycle will contain only tracks that I have not played in the last 90 days-- so conseqently, the Spotify Shuffle will play perfectly until it breaks, right?
And ultimately, this ProofOfConcept should be programmed into the Spotify [LoadOfShuffledTracks to the queue]-- Specifically, the [LoadOfShuffledTracks to the queue] should put onto the queue only those tracks that, for example, are not displayed under the iPhone SpotifyHomeScreen, ClockInTheUpperRight, [RecentlyPlayed] tracks for the last [90 days] such that you could set the [AllowedRepeatTimeForShuffle] to [0] and get the Spotify Shuffle to load the queue the way it does now and keep repeating alreadyPlayed tracks when the veryVeryFragile_Spotify shuffle breaks the way that it does now.
Thus, we would be taking advantage of the current iPhone [RecentlyPlayed] display that collects the tracks that are played under, for example, the rednblu id on all devices-- DeskTop, iPhone, ChromeBrowser, FireFoxBrowser, EdgeBrowser, . . . . Is this true? What do you think?
Are you using any form of Spotify "Connect to a device"?-- such as Connect to super speakers?
I have never gotten any Spotify "Connect to a device" to work without breaking the shuffle irretrievably after about 150 tracks-- But if the Spotify programming code consulted the "Recently played" function as displayed under the iPhone SpotifyHome_Clock in the upper right-- Recently played list-- And if the Spotify programming code loaded onto your play queue only those tracks that you have not played in the last [90 days], I think you would not have a "repeat problem" with the Spotify shuffle. Would that be worth a try?
Are there any apps where shuffle works? Tried Tidal for a while and it did not work well there either for a large playlists. For smaller ones it was better than Spotify. Left Spotify because of this problem and thought they would have done something about this, but apparently not. Will probably have to go back to tidal as bad is better than totally not working.
If you're willing to use an external tool, Steven Aleong's Spotify Playlist Randomizer works great. I mentioned it back on the second page of this thread when I found it back in October
What it does is make a randomized "custom order" for your playlist that you then play with shuffle mode turned off. This order won't change unless you either manually rearrange it, or run the tool again. This is the same way shuffle works on iTunes (or at least, how it used to. I haven't used it in probably 9 years. Lol), and how it would ideally work on Spotify
The issue is not only about huge playlists, I have the same problem when I ask Spotify to shuffle songs from a specific artist - the app just repeats the same N songs over and over again. It's ridiculous. For me only fix so far is to open Youtube Music and shuffle the artist there. At this point, I start questioning why I pay for a service that doesn't support this super basic and common use case.
>> ... huge playlist? ... shuffle repeats the same N songs over and over again without playing the rest of the huge playlist?
I would appreciate your help in testing a PoC (Proof of Concept) for getting perfect Spotify shuffles from all devices-- where a "perfect shuffle" consists of getting 1) zero repeats of any track in the huge playlist until 2) each track has played or been skipped in the shuffle play.
If you are desperate to get a perfect shuffle from a huge Spotify playlist, then I will help you set up the initial ten subsets of your huge playlist that you will need for the PoC-- just post a link to your huge public Spotify playlist, ok?
Happy and smiling listening for shuffle play of all huge Spotify playlists evermore going forward!
>> Fix this *** Spotify shuffle! I'm sick of hearing the same 50 songs of my 462 in the playlist!
Absolutely! All of us users feel your rage and outrage at what the Spotify shuffle does when we just want to hear the music!
But Spotify-- may they be blessed-- have other pressing concerns. Hence, only us users can help each other fix the Spotify shuffle when it breaks.
If you will give us a public link to your 462 song playlist, we users will help you get the Spotify shuffle 1) initialized and 2) maintained so that you play your 462 songs a) without a repeat until b) each and every track of your playlist has played or been skipped by you.
So what is the public link to your 462 song playlist, please?-- or anyone else, for that matter-- so that we heavy users can get started with getting your Spotify shuffle to play for you the way that it was designed to give you pleasure-- and ever good listening.
This reminds me the value of ditching spotify and embracing piracy or bandcamp, because higher-ups are full of themselves and creating problem where one shouldn't be created. Add the ever increasing censorship on this platform and I really have to thing about this.
How about making Shuffle button two-stage? You can either click the stupid Spotify shuffle or click again and ignore your nausea inducing repeating algorithms.
So our only option here is to find another platform and ditch Spotify? It blows my mind they can't/won't give us paying users an actual shuffle. I have a playlist with 10,000+ songs. It acts like I only have maybe 30 different songs. For example, today while working (I'm only on hour 5) I've already heard two songs repeat. This is **bleep**.
I hear you. I have over 2,000 songs and it is like I have to reshuffle just to hear other songs or start from the beginning of my library and turn shuffle off and I think that is so stupid, you are right, we should rethink who we giving our money to because I am tired of hearing the**bleep** smh.
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