[All Platforms][Other] Please make genderstar in german language optional

[tomjoe-ler]

Hello Team,

as i wrote in the subject, i would like to request you to create a second kind of german language setting, one "traditional german" option and one "gender sensitve" option for those who like this more than the traditional german.

For me i have to say that the gender sensitive variant of the german language is really hard to read and gives with every star within the words an opstacle.

Thanks in advance and best regards

Thomas

[DerNomade]

My petition from the beginning of the year was closed after a few days and integrated into this thread.

Proponents of gender * discriminate against the opinion of other people and the male gender, because in German some terms are "neutered" (e.g. Förder:in instead of Förderer) .

In addition, they are anti-democratic, because according to various surveys 65 - 85% of German-speaking respondents are against the gender language are, or consider it unnecessary and excessive.

Here is a survey from Civey that proves this statement.

www.civey.de

(In January the rejection was still 80%).

IMHO here the opinion of a minority is forced on a majority.

And the gender * is also sexist, because it reduces people only to their gender.

[DerNomade]

And here is another one

[AlejaR]

Updated on 2022-12-07

Hey @Sacer,

Thanks for bringing your feedback to the Idea Exchange.

We’re closing this idea since it doesn’t meet one of our Idea Exchange guidelines, namely “Checking for existing ideas”.

That idea you kindly sent us is still open for votes - feel free to add your vote to it in the thumbs up icon!

We just want to clarify that even though the status is set as Case Closed, it doesn't mean the idea has been rejected. We’d suggest adding your vote and subscribing to it to get notified as soon as we have any updates to share.

We’ve made sure to transfer over all the votes gathered here to the original idea.

If you have additional suggestions to add, you can leave your comments on that original thread. If you think your idea should be considered as separate, feel free to submit it again highlighting how your idea is distinct from the existing one.

Cheers!

[Klangerlebnis]

I would comeback to Spotify IF the app uses regular German again (and NOT ideological Gendersprech).

German uses three genders BUT these make NO statements about gender. See in this regard Das Genussystem im Deutschen.

[m1b]

Lately, two well known and recognized organizations gave recommendation who to proceed with „gender dialects“ and both stated NOT to use characters like *_: with reference to non-binary gender, because there simply is no linguistic reference in the German language, which common people here and elsewhere said for two years now.
So Spotify, stop this charade and give us back standard (High) German!

https://www.rechtschreibrat.com/geschlechtergerechte-schreibung-empfehlungen-vom-26-03-2021/
https://gfds.de/schwerpunkt-gendering/

[Fuxband]

🙂Stop complaining about it and just leave for a better streaming service with normal German language (like Ti....) ! I canceled my sub years ago already only because of this gender sh!t and it wasn't any problem.

Spotify doesn't give a **bleep** about what users want.

Read this:

https://newsroom.spotify.com/2022-07-19/spotifys-intentions-around-gender-inclusive-language-on-our-...

This idi...uhm...i mean "General Manager Europe" called "Michael Krause" is not willing at all to change it. So don't try any longer and just quit. It's the only way they will start thinking about it.

[Sanke23]

I know it will be closed, but i will request it anyway.

Please give us an option to turn off gendered language and use regular german language.

[glockenstein]

why do you ignore the wish for a gender free german version. most people in germany hate it, because it is so ugly!

[Sacer]

Even though my last post was closed (https://community.spotify.com/t5/Closed-Ideas/All-Platforms-Other-Add-an-alternative-german-translat...) with a ref to similar ideas WHICH ARE NOT AVAILABLE ANYMORE: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Closed-Ideas/Please-let-me-disable-the-stupid-Genderstern/idi-p/546... got closed with a reference to another closed issue here: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Closed-Ideas/All-Platforms-Other-Please-make-genderstar-in-german-l...

I just want to open it again. The approach of ideologized language does not fit the valid rules of the german language and therefore it disturbs the whole experience with your service if language settings are set to "German".

Please understand that noone want's to cancel that custom version of the german language a minority of people share and use (it's actually only 10% of the population). We just want to have the native german language added back as an option. This wouldn't be so hard as you only have to remove everyting like "*innen".

I'd volunteer for the job of i18n that, if it's a matter of staff costs.

Just don't ignore over SEVENHUNDRED upvotes for that idea!

Please consider that idea. It's not hard to implement and would make the experience of Spotify better for the majority of your german customers.

Thanks!

inb4: I'll open that idea again, and again, and again. So please at least TRY to dialogue with us.

[Yordan]

Updated on 2023-03-30

Hey everyone,

It seems that this idea ended up in the wrong board accidentally, so we're bringing it back.

We're keeping the previous Case Closed status, as we don't have any immediate plans to implement this. As soon as we have any new information to share, rest assured we'll check back in here.

Take care.