Release Radar includes wrong artist with same name as desired artist

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Release Radar includes wrong artist with same name as desired artist

abcdefgabcdefg
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I constantly find my Release Radar recommending songs by an artist (say A) with the same name as an artist (say A') that I might actually wanna listen to. This is extremely dumb as an issue because these two artists are listed as genuinely different artists in Spotify and the newly recommended song by a wrong artist is listed as a song of A' in the system. A reasonable conclusion is that at least Release Radar does not look into the artist IDs but just merely refers to their names. This happens to like 5 different artists to me and my Release Radar is contaminated by songs which I have absolutely no interest in. I believe this is a very basic bug that can be fixed in like 5 minutes.

Mihail
Moderator

Here's an as short as possible version of a previous post in this thread, explaining the behavior of the Release Radar.

 

  • I receive tracks from artists I don't follow at all in my Release Radar - This is intended and we don't plan on changing this. The Release Radar doesn't only help you keep track of artists you follow, but is meant to allow you to discover new music from others we think you might enjoy. It is also one way for Spotify to help artists get their music noticed.

 

  • I get music that I don't enjoy at all in my Release Radar - This means our algorithm doesn't know your music taste so well. There can be many reasons behind this, but the rule of thumb to improve the music you receive in the automatically generated playlists for you is to listen to music without a private session, use the like and hide features, have more intentional music listening habits rather than opportunity based and when you discover something new that you enjoy, listen to it proportionally more than other content. Following these guidelines should give you better recommendations in time. It will still not be perfect and it can vary from person to person, but we're constantly improving these as we go.

 

  • I get tracks from artists that are named exactly the same as ones I follow and enjoy, but it turns out the track is unrelated to that artist and they only have the same name. - This happens if a track initially gets erroneously uploaded to the artist you follow. It can be that the error is already corrected by the time your Release Radar updates, but it already captured the track on its upload. It can happen with featured artists as well. Currently, there's no technical solution in place than can prevent errors like this happening, as we rely on submitted metadata. If you spot an incorrect content, it's best to report it as described here. Make sure your report is clear. If you can't find an artist profile with the same name as the one you follow, it probably hasn't been created yet and is part of the reason the error occurred. Point that out in your report to ensure it can be processed efficiently.
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ishi_the_fishy
Music Fan

This Friday my Release Radar contained 30 songs, and I blocked 11 of them because they are not even close to the kind of artists I follow and several of them are using the names of several legitimate artists I follow. BTW, I've tried blocking artists in Windows 10 using the the red circle with the line through it and select that I don't like the artist. It doesn't work because they just reappear in the following week's Release Radar.  A Spotify moderator has asked for the URIs for some of these fake artists, because it’s apparently too much trouble for the developer to figure out a catalog system and the developers and mods lazy and expect us to do all the work for them. They know exactly what’s going on and are now putting the burden on the paying customer.  But okay, here are two examples. 

 

1) I follow the “real” rock band The Cult (spotify:artist:49DW3KvkyjHO35mK1JnSyS), but I get this fake-The Cult rap garbage in my Release Radar (spotify:album:4jjYHMRl4kEuerq4Pwb2J5)

 

2) I follow the “real” classic rock band Boston (spotify:artist:29kkCKKGXheHuoO829FxWK), but I get this fake-Boston rap garbage in my Release Radar (spotify:artist:3fpgXf1uFtltFybeqiqQB9)

 

As far as the other garbage on my Release Radar, none of the following artists have “Fans also like…” artists listed that I recognize. Many of them are in a genre not even close to anything I listen to and several of them are in a language I don’t understand.  I listen to a lot of US and UK punk bands from the 70s and 80, so why am I getting music from these people?

 

  • Christian faith music from this guy (spotify:artist:7apN8bBgl19E0Ona9pvPq0),
  • French crooner music from this guy (spotify:artist:6y1aZyP40077De3neGJD2b) and this guy (spotify:artist:6NB0vY1HQgkUpCBsm5eAvo)
  • Spanish stuff from this guy (spotify:artist:4hsO4OgoQ1Wz2K0vyqEIpf)
  • Hip-hop **bleep** from this guy with only one album just release Feb. 2, 2021, a total of 279 listeners, a single sentence bio and zero “Fans also Like…”(spotify:artist:7vXpsqnUsqMWdcnWY4Lzqc).

Anyone know another music streaming service that they’ve tried and seems good? I’m now looking to switch from Spotify, taking my Duo Premium plan and moving my parents’ off theirs.  I’m done.

Starmartyr
Casual Listener
I wanted to rant this way too but you nailed it... I cant believe they cannot do a simple fix for this. How bad are their coders?!

I wish it as as easy as switching services; I have many thousands of liked songs, dozens of playlists, shared playlists, hundreds of followed artists. I've gotten in too deep over the past few years and I guess that's what they're counting on - that it's too much effort to switch and impossible to export all this over. Spotify is certainly not the only service for music discovery but it has been a boon for me. I would hate to have to switch honestly.

It's beyond time for them to just fix the damn issue already, enough people are complaining and even offering solutions (artist ID instead of names, how hard is that?), and if people are frustrated enough to want to move elsewhere then wheels need to start turning.

to_be_still
Music Fan

Since this thread is still going strong and it looks like there won't be any automatic solution anytime soon and you're still supposed to report those artists rather cumbersome. My idea for a "report from client" is still going but at the current rate is also not going to come to fruition. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Other-Ability-to-quot-Report-wrong-artist-... So give it a vote for a chance to at least report the stuff easier.

ishi_the_fishy
Music Fan

As far as an Artist ID, that probably already exists even if it's not apparent to us.  The problem is whatever system they're are using has been compromised and is now being exploited by these fake artists. 

 

Furthermore, whatever algorithm they are using to predict potential music I'd like seems to have been "loosened" for lack of a better word, probably to keep our Release Radars full so that we think Spotify is providing lots of content and is valuable.  I've noticed that a lot of the legitimate releases in previous months have either been remixes or live versions of songs from artists I do follow, as opposed to release of actual new material. That's fine. But when they start stuffing the Release Radar with wild guesses, such as suggesting Christian faith music to someone who listens to punk rock, heavy metal, etc., it's completely absurd.  

 

As far as "Report to Client" or similar, that sounds nice but for one problem. As I've already stated, I do actively block songs using the PC version of Spotify by using the red circle with a slash, and then select the option that I do not like this artist.  Despite this, the same exact song and artist appear the following week.  For instance, this exact same song (spotify:track:5AIRzfeAvIJ2cSLhKPvfKs), by the exact same artist, from the exact same album, has appeared on my Release Radar four weeks in a row despite me using the block option each week. So they can add this "Report" option, but my guess is it won't do a thing because the aforementioned problem involving a garbage system that is being actively exploited.  

 

One thing that has worked for me is contacting the legitimate artist. I listen to an artist named Peter Murphy from and old punk/goth band called Bauhaus.  Some guy released some junk onto Spotify a year ago under the name Peter Murphy. After reaching out to Spotify directly through their webform for reporting, I got nowhere after a back and forth over a few weeks.  Finally I just contacted the artist’s own official website. The artist’s representative got back to me an within two days and another day after that the fake Peter Murphy was removed from the real Peter Murphy’s Spotify artist page. 

 

I’ve been with Spotify for just over 1 year, and aside from the incident one year ago it’s been pretty good much of the time. Lately however it’s gotten out of control. I see this thread is over one year old and nothing has been done about this situation, which seems to be getting worse by the week.  I do not have any custom playlists and just use Spotify to play specific albums or radios from artists I follow. I won’t lose playlists if I walk away. 

Starmartyr
Casual Listener

I see. Yeah I noticed buzz on the EDM subreddit about "artists" exploiting actual popular artists with this tactic. I've been seeing it more and more now too.

 

That's great you thought to reach out directly! Too bad you didn't get to talk to the actual Peter Murphy, absolute legend 😉

 

I've thought of diing that too but only looked through Spotify directly. If you try to report an error though the album credits it takes you to the spotify artists area so that's just for the artist themselves to report the error. I'll have to maybe try your way next. Hope more people pile on about this though, maybe I'll try to raise awareness where I can and if we all do maybe it will gain some traction.

 

I guess you still could easily walk away; unfortunately like i said I can't so easily, I have a massive separate collection but while that's nice most of my listening is new stuff now; I think spotify clocked my "new artists" as over 2500 last year alone... So finding each artist I like to listen to and seeking out their music independently or on another service isn't quite in the cards for me. Will see what happens I guess though!

jkeinonen
Gig Goer
I'm happy that thjis is gathering steam! I started a thread about this in 2018'ish, but great to see that something is hopefully happening soon.

Starmartyr
Casual Listener

Voted! This is a good idea, hope it comes to fruition.

timerickson
Music Fan

This happens to me every single week. It's insane this hasn't been fixed for years.  Release Radar should operate using URI, not Artist Name blindly

 

Today's offender:

Offending song URI: spotify:track:34wvBAKz92qCb5t626blJa

I don't follow this artist;   artist I follow: spotify:artist:2o3U0ld93tHYowkoari4Vi

 

Previously: 

New artist "BONZAI" with URI:  spotify:artist:14AefIR4FrHijEazjTQkj6 shows up in my Release Radar as if it was Bonzai, with URI: spotify:artist:5BydzSmKBIh8HkWFwx4Rrg
I follow 5BydzSmKBIh8HkWFwx4Rrg, not 14AefIR4FrHijEazjTQkj6

datfenristho
Roadie

And once again this week I have several songs "featuring" famous groups. I'm pretty dang sure Enigma is not collaborating with these rappers that have less than 1000 listeners. Please fix this already.

 

Here's this song supposedly "featuring" the kpop group Beast: https://open.spotify.com/track/01gWavZgEvGVEALf03Eptf?si=Xod5LzanR4u03bxVePQ6kw

This one "featuring" Enigma: https://open.spotify.com/track/11xk33xJTF3R6kUzPJfPdf?si=XRe1D6bgS_yMkgZGOhSdrQ

Another "featuring" jpop artist Kaya: https://open.spotify.com/track/4bkTDhXEgFwAq4ZJJqHT6L?si=CrpNsGfTRb2G0RCrG4c3Kg

"Featuring" SIAMES: https://open.spotify.com/track/5YNxP9JCF3g7xY4KdyTW1N?si=bH5vhOCUQGq3jqwOwiMY4w

This rap garbage "featuring" Koda: https://open.spotify.com/track/4YwptGvjgwyBlrYO8U95Jz?si=PZ6Pwmc7RMCxBoblf5ProQ

And finally this "featuring" HYDE: https://open.spotify.com/track/77fgYvrPjz8CnJdSZrgCBh?si=PuOZtdTiTfe7nB_VeVXdqQ

 

This is just what I've gotten in my release radar this week. I have this many or more each week and it's only gotten worse.

Mihail
Moderator
Moderator

Hi @datfenristho.

 

similar to what was mentioned above, this seems to be an issue of small, featured artists, that don't even seem to have an artist page on Spotify, getting incorrectly associated in their metadata with bigger artists.

 

Our team that corrects errors like this should be able to help here. Please follow the mentioned steps to report it.

 

If you come across any tracks in your Release Radar of same-named artists, that both have artist pages with us, please add these examples here so we can check those.

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datfenristho
Roadie

So we have to go through and fill out a form for every individual song that's incorrect because you guys have a busted app greeeeaat. Can we have a thread or something to do this instead because that's ridiculous, especially when some people have nearly their entire release radar filled up with these fake songs. They'd have to submit 20+ individual reports every week. Or hey you guys could even add an in app option for this. Would also be nice if you guys could find out why this has become such an issue because this didn't used to happen. Only started happening when the fake artist junk started.

rollulus
Regular

@mihail a while ago this pseudo-DARKSIDE spotify:artist:6O5oIuGZUzfr0BChQWO5mF appeared in my release radar while I follow only the real one: spotify:artist:2933wDUojoQmvqSdTAE5NB

 

Those are distinct artists. Not only in reality, but also in Spotify's URI world. What I don't get is why Spotify cross-references artists based on their name. Somewhere someone at Spotify wrote a line of code that's like `if following_artist.name == new_release.artist.name { addToReleaseRadar(new_release) }`. You can blame all the labels and third parties messing up their submissions to Spotify, but as long as you guys cross reference based on an ambiguous identifier (name), then this is not going to be solved ever.

rollulus
Regular

@mihail more:

 

Immortal: fake: spotify:artist:168eCh2SO4aVvmP2OCDgqE following: spotify:artist:2mVTkiwfm4ic6DnHpmFq8K
Cream: fake: spotify:artist:3VOANNOubuLKvbLoTcpOFA following: spotify:artist:74oJ4qxwOZvX6oSsu1DGnw

 

The fake ones appeared in my release radar the last months, the real ones I follow (or I've liked their songs)

Mihail
Moderator
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Hey @rollulus,

 

Thanks for those, that's what we're looking for!

 

We'll gather these and pass on for investigation. Keep 'em coming if you spot more. It would be best if we catch some of the actual tracks while your Release Radar has not yet updated.

 

 

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jeremycorbett
Roadie

@mihail I hope you are using these references as a starting point, and you aren't expecting us users to report every single instance of these artists?

Mihail
Moderator
Moderator

Hey everyone,

 

Thanks again for taking the time to report this issue to us.

 

 We want to again look into this, but we need your help to gather some information.

 

Please provide us with URIs of artists that appear in your Release Radar and are not the ones you follow. You can find instructions on how to bring up a Spotify URI here.

 

What's important for us to also understand is, if at the time of your release radar, both artists had their dedicated artist page, so please highlight this in your posts.

Thanks! We’ll keep you posted and let you know as soon as we have any updates on this.

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cancerbat2009
Newbie

Alright, this week we have:

 

Northlane

Actual Band: spotify:artist:3qyg72RGnGdF521zMU02u9
In my Radar: spotify:track:0Xrn8m07AAgnRk4uiBIhLe

There is an entire EP from "northlane beatz" filed under Northlane btw.


Squid

Actual Band: spotify:artist:685XjGzGztyivfR3fAjoxo
In my Radar: spotify:track:6ETU3QtHQS9sNQ1Cw1ECrz

 

Sublime
Actual Band: spotify:artist:0EdvGhlC1FkGItLOWQzG4J
In my Radar: spotify:track:27AeyGjjHFcAMbqUFZA5CH

 

Casey

Actual Band: spotify:artist:7KqVvL7NOdUWyQg2B63cck

In my Radar: spotify:track:1SxAR6fMU1L9ms0NHkz41D

 

L7

Actual Band: spotify:artist:2zMQOJ4Cyl4BYbw6WqaO3h

In my Radar: spotify:track:3udCQX8o2BGwapYnJXwzoD

 

CSO

Actual Band: spotify:artist:4mXBjMeG8kxywTd1FnfT4T

In my Radar: spotify:track:1JF2mGyIdFRtO3QYyHOheI

 

Cheers mate

ishi_the_fishy
Music Fan

Spotify has made straightening out Radar Release problems extremely complicated and laborious, placing much of the work on the paying subscribers. For a billion dollar company, this is shameful!

 

HOW DO I HANDLE THE FOLLOWING SITUATIONS?

1) This week I have the a track on my Radar that is from a rap artist(s) named Kazz, Dio (spotify:track:7mh6VQCY8ecejj0Xnso5nZ).  I follow a famous heavy metal artist named Dio (spotify:artist:4CYeVo5iZbtYGBN4Isc3n6), but when I click on the Dio credited in the track it goes to an empty artist page (spotify:artist:4Rl4cBEP0xeuwB0DBrMK73).  Why is this happening, what category of error is this classified under, and exactly how do I report this?

 

2) Given that I listen to punk rock and heavy metal, why am I getting Christian-faith music on my Radar?  I documented this in an earlier reply.  It's like a vegan, sitting down at a vegan restaurant, only to be served a **bleep** steak. (EDIT: I typed "b-l-o-o-d-y steak", as in an undercooked steak, and Spotify saw fit to treat that as profanity?  You couldn't ask for a more poignant example of how dysfunctional this company is)  This is a prime example of how absolutely ridiculous the Radar has become.  I'm also getting all kinds of international fiddle and clarinet music for some reason this week, which doesn't align with a single artist I follow, NOT A SINGLE ONE!  Again, why is this happening, what category of error is this classified under, and exactly how do I report this?

 

I really expect some thoughtful answers to these questions and an immediate solution that doesn't involve me actively reporting tracks (too much work) or the "Hide" option (doesn't seem to work---as they artists are relisted the following week).  My fear is that if you add another feature right into the app to report, it will be just another useless button that doesn't do anything.  Again, Spotify is a BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY, due in large part to our subscriptions.  It shouldn't take over a year and 18 pages of comments to get this straightened out.  Oh, and a Google form? Really? Spotify has a reporting tool on Spotify.com for artists. Why are paying customers being asked to sit at the kiddy table?

MadmanOnWheels
Roadie

I got the same Dio "wannabe" on my "Release Radar", with that Kazz, too. I don't know that is considered a features artist, since it doesn't actually have "featuring" anywhere in the artist section or song section. I was going to report it, but I don't, if it will get rejected or whatever.

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phaidrosz
Newbie

I have the same issue as written above.

I'm following

spotify:artist:5tlNJfV9UIpgnbWmvUEFu7

 

...but this artist appeared in my Release radar:

spotify:artist:4Myv7ZWpcx3eKMw9MH3LFL

Starmartyr
Casual Listener

Still an issue, popping up often especially in EDM artists. Here's one for you, I keep getting different "Oliver" artists for the EDM group Oliver. Screenshot attached.

Screenshot_20210212-200843_Spotify.jpg

 

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