Hi-fi, lossless playback, FLAC offer

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Hi-fi, lossless playback, FLAC offer

wilpacolypse
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Just received a notification via the app for lossless playback, etc.., for an additional $5 but i clicked back and now it's gone? How can i find this again?

 

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meahtenoha
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Hi all, Spotify Staff here. 

 

We don't have an offer for lossless playback. The absolutely best way to let Spotify know you would be interested in such a feature is to leave your vote and comments here: "HiFi Quality - Lossless Streaming 16bit 44.1khz"

 

I can assure you the feedback in the Idea Exchange is being passed on to the internal teams on a very regular basis. As soon as we have any updates on this we will post in that thread first. 

 

Thank you for coming to the Spotify Community to give us your feedback. If you have any questions please post here.

 

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MattSuda
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Good news!

 

Spotify has announced that later this year lossless quality is coming and it will be called Spotify HiFi

 

Check out my blog post about it

 

Check out this news article for more information:

Five Things to Know About Spotify HiFi

 

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meahtenoha
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Hi all, Spotify Staff here. 

 

We don't have an offer for lossless playback. The absolutely best way to let Spotify know you would be interested in such a feature is to leave your vote and comments here: "HiFi Quality - Lossless Streaming 16bit 44.1khz"

 

I can assure you the feedback in the Idea Exchange is being passed on to the internal teams on a very regular basis. As soon as we have any updates on this we will post in that thread first. 

 

Thank you for coming to the Spotify Community to give us your feedback. If you have any questions please post here.

 

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BylKay
Newbie

since the time that you are told I do not think that spotify really do what with their update nothing at all.

it is now who must move is unacceptable to stay 3 years! like that by being Numero 1

jbd00
Regular

Spotify has started to delete some of my comments calling out staff for dumping concerned users to this forum to "vote" rather than giving any updates of use. It appears this is a sensitive issue for them?

ullodea
Newbie

Same sentiment here and regrettably want to switch to deezer or tidal, but I'm worried about losing my playlists. Are there any reliable ways to transfer them across? Such a shame - I thought the idea was to lead rather than follow. This way well be their Nokia moment....

awebster
Casual Listener

Look into Soundiiz for playlist migration...

aswinasar
Newbie

There are many services like SongShift and Soundiiz that will transfer your playlists between services.

ul8p755_q-jsr
Newbie

Please sign me up! I'd absolutely upgrade to a HiFi subscription if it was available, lossless Spotify is effectively the way to make it the absolute perfect streaming service!

elektroinside
Regular

Well, it's been awhile since I dropped Spotify for Deezer, and i do miss tremendously some Spotify features, but having the ability to stream to 3 devices simultaneously with one account topped with the sound quality (& quality sources) I'm sure I will not look back.

Spotify needs to understand that lossy quality combined with different audio streaming technologies, like bluetooth (which people very often use) makes things even worse. Some will say that bluetooth streaming is lossy by design and lossless doesn't makes sense. This, on its own, is true, but bluetooth streaming a lossless source sounds way better than bluetooth streaming a lossy source, extremely noticable on studio equipment, and easily noticable with just good quality equipment. Especially now, when newer bluetooth technologies are introduced every year. This is true for virtually any streaming tech (except a very few, mainly "casting" type of streamers). What actually happens is that the audio data is converted two or more times before it reaches the user's ears, in different formats. This translates into data loss with each conversion, which in the end sounds poorly. And if the DACs used are also of a lesser quality.. well.

So there are many reasons why lossless makes sense in many cases, even for non-professionals or non-audiophiles with expensive equipment. And there's the subconscious part, where people know they are listening to quality streams and enjoy music more. It matters, when it's missing.

That audio test on "The Verge" means nothing. Audio tests are subjective (at most) and cannot be done with two tracks. It's a nice try, but useless.

Think no more Spotify, know that lossless is a good business choice, to cover all the (still) niche users, as they will turn out to be the majority in the very near future. You'll have a lot of work, as you started out with one thing, which is not sufficient anymore, and you will eventually have to switch to something else. If you haven't planned for this, it might be even more difficult. But remember, don't just stream lossless from a lossy source, as that will be your doom.

 If users are needed for testing lossless, count me in.

 

Steve83
Casual Listener

I am also paying for Tidal as the quality is incredible.  Still paying for Spotify family as well.  Can i be part of the beta as i am very close at moving my family plan to tidal HiFi for $35 a month.

jhucx1
Casual Listener

I am 100%in the same boat as Steve83 above.  I also pay for both Spotify family and recently gave Tidal a try.  I kept hearing how bad the interface was, but I actually really like it.  I'm impressed by the SQ of their FLAC based media and really enjoy the MQA content as well.  The tidal interface gives a ton of info about the recordings as well as a great mechanism for RIYL.  I don't want to give up on Spotify because I've been a subscriber for 6 years.  But, if the status quo in terms of the sound quality is the best there is I'm going to make the jump completely.  

Steve83
Casual Listener
Yes and also love tidal videos

Imtheflacman
Newbie

If there is such a thing, I'd be happy to test it pay for it. Tidal on my Sonos kit sounds good, Spotify on Sonos sounds no different. Tidal on my Naim Muso sounds awesome (free trial that came with it, almost time for renewal!) Spotify Extreme sounds slightly worse. Not a fan of his music but a local audio dealer recommended Sting' Fields of Gold as being a great track to use as a benchmark. It is! I'm also on a Qobuz trial right now but I'm disappointed. Awful interface, poor selection and generally unreliable. 

tashi2000
Newbie

Count me in

sk-qysxq92_kc
Casual Listener

when will it become avalible?

My Tidal 1 month trail is soon over. But I think I wil stick with it and unsubscribe to spotify if the cant deliver lossless.

there is really a noticable difference in audio quality. 

tom_m1
Regular

I've now tried Spotify, Tidal, and Deezer. Tidal wasn't enough to pull me away from Spotify. The first week or two of Deezer wasn't either...Honestly it was the available music on Spotify that kept me (and marketing and customer loyalty, I've used Spotify for years). The quality on Tidal and Deezer is hands down better than Spotify on average. You will notice an improvement and, to be frank, I don't think that has to do with lossless/hi-fi. I think it's the source quality.

 

After more time with Deezer I realize its catalogue is actually larger than Spotify's and the quality is better. Lossless is awesome too. So unfortunately, I'll likely be ending my Spotify subscription. I'll check back if they add lossless, but many people have been asking for it for a long while. I think Spotify had every chance here, but just didn't deliver. I really don't think Spotify cares about lossless because I think it only serves a very small subsegment of users.

 

If you want lossless, I would suggest Deezer. I do wish it was like $5/mo cheaper. I think if Spotify came in with a more aggressively price lossless option, it would really spell trouble for Tidal and Deezer. Though again, I also don't think Spotify is ever really going to invest much into the audio quality department. I bet 95%+ of their users are using cheap earbuds. All lossless would stand to do is run them a higher bill. I absolutely can't fault them for that business decision and I absolutely had a lovely time with Spotify over the years.

jtjdt
Casual Listener

Wait until you try Tidal+Roon (RoonLabs) - Prepare to be blown away.

Tuskorr
Newbie

Please invite me to test the lossless beta.

elektroinside
Regular

I'm in the same boat. Started a long time ago with Google's Play Music, then switched to Spotify, but the sound quality occasionally was plan and simply horrible. It wasn't just the streaming, if the source is fine, 320 is not bad, but not good either. I am a sound engineer, so lossy music on studio equipment sounds horrible no matter the source. And it's all i have, studio equipment. So i ditched Spotify, turned to Tidal. At first, it was ok, but i noticed the same thing on their lossless stream, occasionally the sound quality was subpar. So they too have "source quality" issues. But the UI was horrible. And it's heavily rap & rnb oriented, too much for my tastes. And so i ditched Tidal as well and turned to Deezer. So far, i have the best experience with them. Nothing is "the best" with them, but everything works good enough. Sound quality very good, sources are good, UI acceptable, "flow" works good, track suggestions work fine.. Spotify excels at suggestions and user experience, but lacks sound quality. So, concluding, Deezer is my choice until Spotify starts streaming lossless and verifies sources.

joelaville
Casual Listener

I followed your advice, I did a bit 'of listening also comparing Qobus, better than Tidal, but speaking of the flow of listening and quality, I agree at the time Deezer hifi is the Top.

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