[All Platforms] Option to have a true shuffle

[jonathanleyerle]

So I’ve been noticing more and more recently that Spotify’s default shuffle feature doesn’t fully shuffle your songs. It does some sort of grouping to try to get similar songs together based off of what I’m sure is dozens of factors. Every time I shuffle a playlist (the one I noticed this with the most is ~100 songs and 6 hours of mostly full albums) it will group the songs mostly or completely together by album/artist, and given the number of times I’ve re-shuffled and checked the order there’s no way it’s just a coincidence. They also generally seem to be in the same order as well. If I hit shuffle play on a playlist it’ll generally put the same artists at the beginning every time.

With larger playlists of albums I am really not a fan of this shuffling method. If I have 6 hours of music on a playlist I will hardly ever have 6 hours to actually listen through the whole thing, but when I do listen to it I would like to hear all of the music on it equally, and not just the artist or two your algorithm likes to shuffle to first.

Anyways, I’m a reasonable man, all I’m asking for is an option to have a true shuffle (take all songs in the list, put them in a random order, and once they’re all played reshuffle them and play them again). Make it premium only if you want. I don’t think you should scrap the current shuffle algorithm because it sucks. Looking at some of the suggestions on here it seems like some people lobbied hard to have it that way. Just add an option for a true shuffle for those of us that don’t care about potentially getting the same song twice in a row.

[zx6dude]

Sad, but true. I only wish that Spotify would come clean and admit to it in this "live" idea.

Profits over customer service.

As @dank13 said, better take your money elsewhere, Spotify will never fix this, they are too greedy.

Most providers have a free trial period, I tried Amazon Music, Apple Music and Deezer, ended up with Deezer. I wish I could try Tidal and YouTube Music, but neither are available in my country.

I can confirm that Amazon Music, Apple Music and Deezer have shuffle that actually works, I have heard songs I'd almost forgotten about, and I almost started re-liking songs that I used to love until Spotify repeated them so many times I started hating them. Ironic for a music provider: "lets play great songs so many times, that people will start hating them"

[rozeboosje]

In all fairness I also think that perhaps those poor schmucks who are still parting with their money for this abysmal service are barking up the wrong tree. I suspect that the problem isn't "shuffle" per se, but in fact the problem is "large play lists".

I will never go back to Spotify so it would take someone who is still with them to try this but am I right in thinking that Spotify's shuffle works fine on short play lists? Play lists containing 80 songs or less, to be precise?

My hypothesis is that Spotify do not like large play lists. These would consist of MANY songs by REAL musicians, so playing them will cost Spotify more in royalties when other forms of "random" play will allow them to sneak in their AI generated musical chewing gum for which they don't need to pay any artist a cent.

So to discourage people compiling large play lists for themselves they will never allow users to rearrange them, shuffle them (properly) etc, which short of them point blank blocking the creation of large play lists will help them, because people will soon get fed up hearing the same songs in the same order every time and try "something else" - cue more royalty free musical garbage.

As others have already said: Spotify could at least come clean about this and bluntly tell people that they will never fix this, rather than tasking their moderators to keep shoveling repeat requests for this into this black hole of a thread.

[Calbyte]

Please implement this true shuffle!!!

[Mookpsu]

Calbyte they've been ignoring us for the last four years but who knows,
maybe they'll listen to you. And if not Amazon Music has a true shuffle,
they now get my money

[random_please]

I wonder what the artists would think if they knew that songs are not selected randomly and that some songs take priority over other songs for no apparent reason. Maybe a law suit is needed to get Spotify motivated to fix this issue.

[rozeboosje]

Spotify won't be intimidated by a LOLsuit

The only thing they'll understand is loss of revenue.

Loss of YOUR subscription won't be enough to sway them either but, trust me and others here who have made the same decision, in this case the grass really is greener on the other side. So YOU will be happier. Honestly .

And who knows, if enough listeners leave Spotify their record company business partners might notice and start leaving, too, and maybe THEN they will start taking notice.

But the nicest thing is that, once you take that first step and leave this joke of a streaming service, it won't matter to YOU any more.

Come to the dark side

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[CheebaQueen]

This has an obscene amount of votes and comments yet nothing has changed. Yes, PLEASE PLEASE get rid of this “feature”. The shuffle is AWFUL and every playlist and even radio for certain songs and artists “tailors” it to what I’ve already heard and I hear the same songs OVER AND OVER again. It’s driving me mad!!!! I searched and people have been asking to get rid of this for YEARS! Will Spotify ever listen to their customers? 

[Mookpsu]

CheebaQueen nope!

[zx6dude]

CheebaQueen they really don't. 

[Mechta]

I use a 3rd party website to create a random ordered playlist of all my likes (to truly have a shuffled playlist). My playlist is 9000+ songs long and I regularly lose my place in the playlist order, for instance when I listen to some other playlist or album, and it would be cool to have the playlist automatically remove each track as it is listened to when playing the specific playlist (without affecting my Like status or other playlists of course).