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Library Song Limit

TaraLynn1
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Spotify staff-

 

I recently reached the 10,000 song limit in my library, which is a great disappointment.  As a loyal customer for over 3 years, I have thoroughly enjoyed your product, so much that I have shifted to using it as my main source of music collection.  There must be some way that you can enable "super users" to continue to file and organize their music over this arbitrary limit.  

 

There may not be many of us, but (and this should be obvious) those of us that actually reach this limit are your core constituents.  We are passionate about music and your product, and I can tell you that I have gotten at least 20 people to sign up to Spotify Premium over the past couple of years as I have raved about it.  I will continue to do so, with the caveat that Spotify just isn't yet ready to become a full-fledged music library of record for musical aficianados, much to my disappointment.

 

One more thought: You may find interest in the creation of some type of super user account that would allow you to charge SLIGHTLY more for those of us who desire or require a higher song limit (say, unlimited...) without having to alter the accounts of your millions of users.  Bottom line is that unlimited should mean unlimited, especially in this age of big data, but a 10,000 song cap with no alternative is absurd.

 

Thanks

 

271 Replies

MrGenius1
Newbie

Can Spotify give a technical reason why the 10,000 limit can't be adjusted or removed for Premium customers? Is there a design flaw in the software were it can't handle more than 10,000 songs? Are you storing my collection? Windows Media Player has no problem with my collections of over 2400 albums. Groove didn't have a problem either. I ended up with Spotify coming from Microsoft. I just want one music player to handle my growing collection and I thought it was Spotify. 

davisderic
Newbie

Is there a clear alternative to Spotify, but without a 10,000 song limit?

 

With a 10,000 song limit in place, it makes Spotify completely worthless.  Of course, I use Spotify to listen to music, but even more than that, I use it to track the artists, albums, and songs that I like.  Without that, Spotify just becomes a Search engine for music to play.  If you cannot track everything you want in your library, then you can track nothing in your library.

erithtotl
Casual Listener

I'm not here to promote another service, but I use Google Play now.  It lacks the adoption of Spotify which means its less 'social', but it doesnt' have the 10K limit and lets you upload music you own that is not on the service (rare, but happens) so that you can make all your collection available in the cloud.  Since I do have some niche stuff that is not on the service (or any service), that is useful to me.  It doesn't work with Alexa which is a pain (probably because Google and Amazon are in a pretty nasty competition now in that area).

 

Because Alexa is a thing, I've also started trying out Amazon Music Plus.  Not enough time on it to have a strong opinion.

 

I would have totally stayed as a Spotify Premium member had the 10K limit not existed.

ch992
Casual Listener

I use a rathert rediculis solution.

Every time reach the 10k Limit, i create a New Account and make the Old one public, than i sort my libery and follow my Old Account, to have Access to my Other playlists. Oh and dont forget to Quit your Old premium membership. This solution is insane spotify...

Marcus_
Newbie

Can't believe there is a 10k limit. I'm definitely switching back to Google Play Music and cancelling my premium subscription. If I have to "unlike" what I already like to continue "liking" new music I've found, then what is the point? What a reward for power users!

 

Also the assertion that 1% of users hitting the limit are having an "OK" experience now as opposed to a "great" one is insane. I'm not having an OK experience, I'm having no experience. Cuz I can't save new songs and find more songs and listen to them easily.

 

Pretty loose definition of OK! Guess every time I use Discover Weekly I'll start writing down on post-it notes what artists and songs I like and I can just take them with me everywhere I go so I can remember what I want to listen to... -_-

JoshHorner
Casual Listener

Truly assinine response from Spotify on this. Literally just realized I hit the max when my downloaded new songs kept disapearing on mobile. At work today with the desktop version open I see this message: "Epic collection, friend. Your Library is all filled up. To save more, you'll need to remove some songs." I am not your friend after running into this and to be honest if I knew this from the start I would not be paying for Premium.

 

If this is a large infrastructure thing that Spotify deems as not relevant because only 1% of users are affected what do they expect will happen over time? Not only are people continually adding to their Libraries organically, or by Browsing fresh releases Spotify itself promotes, what about Podcasts which continually update week after week or in another case I have set up a ITTT that adds my 30 Discover Weekly songs into a Discover Playlist.

 

I'm sure most of us power users affected by this would be okay with an additional dollar a month sub fee in order to have infinite library. I'll be doing some more research on the history of Spotify's response to this, but before long I can be almost certain I'll be switching services.

 

Let's see some action Spotify!

Twobagtaylor
Regular

I'm yet to see a response from Spotify on this topic at all. I am about this to move as well. It's a shame there is a lot I like about Spotify but the lack of focus on this issue has been palpable and it's not a hard fix, no other service I have used has this arbitrary limit. And yes I would pay extra.

lucasrcosta
Regular

As we already have 5 pages of complaints of this, I'll just +1...

ksdtroutt
Casual Listener

I agree...there should be "unlimited" number of songs allowed in the Library.  I am also a music lover that listens to many different genres over many years.   I hope Spotify listens to the many users who want more than 10,000 songs allowed in their Library.  Also, how do you know how many songs you actually have in your Library.  Would like to know ahead of time if I am getting close so I can remove some to make room for new.

 

Thanks!!

Pcar773
Regular

I just hit the limit too!

RonyDart
Casual Listener

I also have a Google Play Music account. There, there is a 1,000 limit songs per Playlist. I'd love to see a service that had it all. Ratings, no limits on playlists or library, custom genres. The user experience on every single music service available is terrible. Not intuitive.

joepapa514
Newbie

forreal forreal. i love Spotify but i hate this library limit time bull **bleep**. music is my life. THERE SHOULD BE NO LIMIT

un-bel-di
Music Fan

Thanks to person who advices to save into playlists!

I even didnt think that 

fking spotify  doesnt allow to "save" by albums (after 10000) but still allows to save to playlists)))

Actually for me it saves the problem. But the situation inself ridiculous.

But i have no hope to spotify became better product. Some time ago i had problem with dissapearance of saved songs. And actually a lot of people experienced this-check out the forum.

But most funny part-spotify even didnt recognises the problem! All problematic forum threads are closed by stupud "solution" to reformat your card, factory resets and etc-after which rhe same problem will appears)

But at least i can see that saved songs problem as possibly tough tech task.

But 10000 limit of basially text data???

Spotify you are pitiful)))

 

guyver7
Casual Listener

This is a laughable limitation. I hit the limit last year, and now every time I find something new that seems cool, I hesistate, because of the chore of going through old library items to gauge their worthiness; "will I listen to this again in.. a week a month, a year?" It's just silly to think that will work, because music is a spontaneous thing, I can't judge what I'll want to hear next week by my current mood. 

 

Since the library isn't a library of music anyway, it is just a list of bookmarks- it encourages users to add to it liberally. Yet there was never a message saying "be thoughtful when you add items, because you only get 10,000 songs". There's no song capacity bar on your account page, it just pops up one day and makes the whole Spotify experience much more of a hassle. 

 

I'm seriously considering jumping ship despite the inconvenience.

 

Jack57
Casual Listener

Good to know !

Elbesade
Casual Listener

There should be a solution! Spotify has to expand (at least a little bit) the song limit, it can’t stay like these. At least 11111 songs

aubreyburke
Newbie

I just hit this limit 

Compleatly **bleep** 

 

I dont understand why you have this when apple Music allows 100,000 ! songs!   **bleep**? 

I relaly dont want to swith music streaming services but might have to with this BS 




danking4
Newbie

I'm a huge Spotify user/fan/supporter and this 10,000 songs limit is absolute garbage. Furious at the thought of that what otherwise seems like a forward thinking music-streaming service would have such an arbitrary and pointless limit. Also, I second the point of the user who stated that people on this forum ARE your biggest users; we're the ones adding 1,000's of songs becuase we are music fanatics.

bhombrenuevo
Casual Listener

I originally posted my complaint on hitting the 10,000 limit back in November 2017. It does seem odd that to find myself in a 1% group that Spotify has decided to ignore as not the typical user. I almost exclusively listen to classical music and Spotify seems to have the largest collection and one that features really good recordings.

 

At least for classical music listening, Spotify IMHO has got it dead wrong when considering what listeners want to save (not download, but save in library). While Spotify does recognize albums of tracks, they musn't realize that for classical music all the tracks of an album are what are listened to. For example, Beethoven wrote Symphony9 in 5 movements intentionally, and wanted them to be listened to in a specific order. All classical music adhered to this convention going back at least to the early 1600's. The composer had a purpose in the way the movements are rendered, and of course today that cohesive single set of movements is represented as multiple individual "songs". But Spotify doesn't recognize this difference between an album of movements vs a bunch of countable songs. I would be grudgingly willing to accept a 10,000 album limit, but track is absurd! Come on... Spotify: are you even reading these posts at all?

 

As a few others have already pointed out, the way around this stupid limit that will work is playlists (as long as Spotify doesn't impose limits on playlists). In fact, I have explored several ways to use playlists that will allow me to go way past the 10,000 song limit.

 

Alternative 1 (the most likely):

When you search/find the album you wanted, instead of saving it to the library, select "Add to Playlist", and then select "Create". By default, Spotify gives the playlist the exact name of the album. All new albums I have found, are now added to my library as a new playlist instead of a new album, and I don't get the "Epic collection, friend" notice. As a cleanup, I may remove each album I have, re-search it, and create a playist for the album instead of saving it. For some reason, if I try to add a saved album to a new playlist it doesn't default to the album name. So I have to make Spotify forget about what I had, and then re-find it and add it to playlist.

 

Alternative 2: (relatively quick and dirty, depending on number of albums, less preferred)

I started to manually select each of my existing albums and add it to a single "Index" playlist which theoretically could contain the 10,000 songs I had now saved. I don't really recommend this alternative because the result would be a single playlist of songs that cannot be easily distinguished in their original album form. A sub-alternative is also to create playlists named "A", "B", etc. for all composers whose name starts with "A", "B", etc. Classical music lovers wil realize that with Bach, Beethoven, Brahms alone that "B" playlist can get confusingly long.

 

Conclusion:

By using playlists in various ways, you can totally get around the 10,000 song limit. In fact, I'm a software engineer and read enough about the Spotify API to realize that I could write scripts that do all these playlist from album conversions, and remove saved albums. It's only a matter of prioritizing all the other ways for which I could spend my time.

 

But why go to all this bother, when this is all due to what is a completely inexplicable and seemingly arbitrary limitation?! Spotify: do you read such user posts? Why have you imposed this limit which is particularly unreasonable for classical music lovers who think of albums as the typical single unit and not its constituent tracks/songs?

 

Also Spotify: if you are reading posts, please don't add insult to injury with this entirely disingenous "Epic collection, friend" alert. You are not my friend - you are an app... or a company at best... but certainly not MY friend. You also are in no position to offer compliments to my collection as being epic or otherwise... because of your lack of regard for the way that classical music lovers will want to create their libraries. Please recognize the need to limit albums to 10,000 not songs... or create an entirely higher ceiling.

 

 

 

117279372
Newbie

Here's another long time user bumping into the 10.000 song library limit. Each time I want to 'bookmark' a new album for future listening, I am forced to delete an old one from my library. This is really annoying and frustrating, to say the least. I already deleted all of the albums I listen to on a regular basis, so my library is filled exclusively with albums I want to discover at a later time. Fix this ASAP!

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